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The way it often goes, is they ask their question awkwardly, the bus driver says, "well where are you trying to get to, exactly?", and the passenger goes off on a ramble about other things. I think they get that from watching politicians being asked questions on TV. Then when the driver tells them they're going in the wrong direction, and what they should do, the passenger gives them a funny look, like the driver must not know what he's talking about.
Often, the driver knows very little about the neighbourhood they are driving in. Why they stand at the stops, with other people, and instead want to ask the driver, who may well live in Milton, I don't know. Especially when it's about which other bus to take to get where ...
 
Often, the driver knows very little about the neighbourhood they are driving in. Why they stand at the stops, with other people, and instead want to ask the driver, who may well live in Milton, I don't know. Especially when it's about which other bus to take to get where ...
You and I are talking about different things, I think. Consider this (imaginary) example: Someone gets on bus 34 Eglinton eastbound at Mt. Pleasant, the bus is travelling from Eglinton to Kenneday stations, and the passenger asks, "Does this bus go to the subway?" The answer is yes, eventually, but it's likely the passenger is trying to get to Eglinton station, and is going the wrong way. When the driver asks, which station, or which direction will they be going when they get to a station, the passenger just says, "I want the subway". If the driver advises the passenger should be going in the other direction to get to the nearest station, the passenger may still be confused, and give up, staying on the bus that's taking them the wrong way. I'm not making fun of people or being dismissive, I just think it's sad that I've seen this happen so often. As for asking other passengers instead of TTC personnel, I see that happen too, with the same results. I do agree that if the passenger is asking about something else entirely, like how to get to a local business, another passenger might know better than a driver, but then again, the reverse is just as likely, in my experience both as an observer, and as one who occasionally needs to ask directions myself.
 
One door leads to Cedarvale station, the other Eglinton West. If you are in a wheelchair you must use Cedarvale.
Please, let's not be giving sections of the same station different names. You'll have people asking which train will take them from Cedarvale to Eglinton West. (But I'm being a hypocrite because I like the Yonge and Bloor platforms having different names, and I hope the TTC never changes them.)
 
Please, let's not be giving sections of the same station different names. You'll have people asking which train will take them from Cedarvale to Eglinton West. (But I'm being a hypocrite because I like the Yonge and Bloor platforms having different names, and I hope the TTC never changes them.)
Not one is.

You are replying to a joke. Why do you think they won't change both signs?
 
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Kind of a shame about the Cedarvale signage. The stainless steel looks much more refined. Obviously this was done on the cheap.
Not only it’s cheap. There are near impossible to read in the dark. They have gone this route on many signage throughout the system by replacing backlit signs with a mostly black wooden board. If they want to do this, they should install lights to shine on it.
 
You and I are talking about different things, I think.
No, pretty much the same thing. Though more often a street (though you see all things). Meanwhile there's a dozen of people at the stop, who'd mostly be able to give (often better) help; and certainly less rushed help ... with it easy to point to the stop they might need.

Though why not put the destination (or next) station on the sign? Oh well, I suppose at least they but bus numbers on most of the signs now.

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At least Eglinton line won't have this problem at the surface stops. Assuming that the signage hasn't changed since when this one was taken, over 5 years ago.
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Vehicle type does not matter. If it did, the Scarborough RT would have been differentiated on the map differently than the other lines, and it was not.

To the average customer, the Eglinton and Finch West lines will behave a lot like a subway - they will come quite frequently, they will have to pay before boarding the vehicle, and they will be able to enter from any door. Thus, it makes sense to put them on the map as equivalent.


Agreed on all counts.


Also agreed. This is why I disagree with putting the streetcars on any subway map without also putting a bus. The two are equivalent.

Dan
Hmmm... I do not see streetcars & buses as equivalent & most definitely would choose a route that uses the former over the latter when the option exists. And I'd like to visually be able to see my subway & streetcar options together, not on different maps. But I guess it is also true that most of us will just use Google Maps to plan our routes, not maps, so perhaps the point is moot.
 
Hmmm... I do not see streetcars & buses as equivalent & most definitely would choose a route that uses the former over the latter when the option exists. And I'd like to visually be able to see my subway & streetcar options together, not on different maps. But I guess it is also true that most of us will just use Google Maps to plan our routes, not maps, so perhaps the point is moot.
While most transit nerds would prefer a streetcar to a bus (myself included), the reality is that to the average person they are equivalent. Both types operate in mixed traffic on busy streets, do not have level boarding, and require payment when boarding the vehicle.

Dan
 
While most transit nerds would prefer a streetcar to a bus (myself included), the reality is that to the average person they are equivalent. Both types operate in mixed traffic on busy streets, do not have level boarding, and require payment when boarding the vehicle.

Dan
I wonder if there's been a study on that. It's just anecdotal, but most of my non-transit nerd friends have also expressed their preference for the smoother riding streetcar over the rough bus any time I've brought it up.
 
Why is Line 6 so dinky? And goes... nowhere?
Because it's in the suburbs, they don't have destinations out there.

But more specifically in the case of the map, you can see that line 5 is not shown in its full length, either, only in so far as it touches Line 1. It's not supposed to be a full demonstration of the service, only to call out that Line 1 intersects with it.
 
Because it's in the suburbs, they don't have destinations out there.

But more specifically in the case of the map, you can see that line 5 is not shown in its full length, either, only in so far as it touches Line 1. It's not supposed to be a full demonstration of the service, only to call out that Line 1 intersects with it.
I think at least having an indication of a terminal stop would be useful, but what do I know!
 
Why is Line 6 so dinky? And goes... nowhere?
I'm not sure I'd call Etobicoke General Hospital and the 20,000 people at Humber Polytechnic – the western terminus – nowhere. Or the Jane & Finch neighbourhood. With almost 40,000 riders a day in Fall 2024, the 36 Finch West has the highest ridership of any bus route in Toronto, exceed only by the 504 King and even higher than Line 4. It was 55,000 pre-Covid in 2019. Admittedly some of the 36 traffic is between Finch West and Finch station.
 

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