Metroscapes
Active Member
Sunday, November 16, 2025
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dowlingm
Senior Member
Can’t stand the whining on here about how TTC is too captured by safety woke. They (and the other parties) must be under enormous political pressure to get this operating. We saw in Ottawa what rail transit by mayoral fiat gets you, so to me as long as it does start before the snow, it’s good enough.
The TTC has every reason to press GO - except the consequences if they are wrong and someone is or lots of someones are hurt. I live a mile from a Crosstown station so I will benefit when it opens - at the right time
The TTC has every reason to press GO - except the consequences if they are wrong and someone is or lots of someones are hurt. I live a mile from a Crosstown station so I will benefit when it opens - at the right time
DirectionNorth
Senior Member
Seriously? **** safety?
We have an example of a forced premature opening for political reasons right here Made in Ontario™. It was so bad they commissioned a 664 page inquiry into its failings. That's not to say that Metrolinx shouldn't be more transparent, nor that the TTC has good operating practices, but absent evidence to the contrary, I'd rather have a closed train than an open train that fails. No doubt the users currently decrying the delays and telling us that they don't care about safety would be the first to jump on Metrolinx for not properly testing the line, if an accident were to occur (not to mention possibly killing people!?).
Besides, who benefits from keeping the line closed? Politicians with a continued black eye for its continued not-opening? Consortiums who get paid to open and operate the train? The TTC, which would like to have its train, please? The Illuminati, who would like to keep the interdimensional portal beneath Yonge/Eglinton closed?
nfitz
Superstar
You don't care about safety?
This isn't Montreal. Safety is paramount. Any engineer who fails to treat it that way can lose their licence.
drum118
Superstar
As far as I am concern, it will open when its ready and safety to so and if any political pressure is apply to do it sooner with X taking place, those who apply the pressure should be held liable and criminally reasonable for X.
I happen to have an unplan look at Maryland Purple Line in June where the original P3 firms walkway from the project that is 18 miles long. The governor had to hired a new team to finish is line by 2027 as well settle the law suite by the P3. Love the CAF car and couldn't get a real good shot of it.
This line is a mixture of centre of the road, on one side of the street, lines on either side of the street, in CSX rail corridor with a crash wall like Metrolinx require ones and on an old B&O line with a trail beside it. If you want see some of this project, it is up on my Flickr site for June 21, 22, and 23 as well in the Maryland Album
Supposed to be 142 feet long with an other 27 of them and the best shot I could get. Ah!!! what we need for QQE as well QQW.
I happen to have an unplan look at Maryland Purple Line in June where the original P3 firms walkway from the project that is 18 miles long. The governor had to hired a new team to finish is line by 2027 as well settle the law suite by the P3. Love the CAF car and couldn't get a real good shot of it.
This line is a mixture of centre of the road, on one side of the street, lines on either side of the street, in CSX rail corridor with a crash wall like Metrolinx require ones and on an old B&O line with a trail beside it. If you want see some of this project, it is up on my Flickr site for June 21, 22, and 23 as well in the Maryland Album
Supposed to be 142 feet long with an other 27 of them and the best shot I could get. Ah!!! what we need for QQE as well QQW.
ThenWhat
New Member
I believe the point that felix123 and others make is that "safety" is not safety. The "safety" word is just a convenient dodge when you run out of all the other excuses; it has little to do with actual safety.
ThenWhat
New Member
I would like to see some evidence of the "enormous political pressure", other than anodyne statements to the press. Has anyone been fired or demoted because of the delays? Have any executives not been getting their bonuses as a result?
On whom do you apply the pressure, when everybody says the problems are not their fault?
Natika33
Active Member
They've removed the signage from the west entrance to Don Mills station & added "no entry" notices. Makes sense as the construct for the Ontario line will be taking up that side for the foreseeable future.
A 6264
Active Member
I was walking past the east entrance a few days ago, and the fencing in front of the doors had been removed entirely! It may have been temporary, and I'm sure the doors were locked. I didn't check because there was a guard nearby.
felix123
Active Member
Yep, you hit the nail on the head.
cplchanb
Senior Member
if it was really in the name of safety then release a list of all outstanding items and deficiencies that are deemed a "safety" doorkeeper.
PL1
Senior Member
This illustrates why transparency is so important, and how Metrolinx's lack of communication has made people not believe any explanations. Whether the silence is contractual, or due to ministerial/government fiat doesn't matter.
jmi22
Active Member
Which TTC Service plan did you find this revised Line 5 bus revision map in?
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
From 2024 Service Plan (not the 2022) https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Documents/Home/Public-Meetings/Board/2023/November-22/3_2024_Annual_Service_Plan.pdf?rev=1f3c80eaf2eb4b159ae4eb163e942154&hash=4125E37095C20F99B4F347BDF4E6827B
That's why we need to see the actual, final, complete, agreed upon, signed, etc. bus routes plans for the bus routes for Line 5 when it actually opens.
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jmi22
Active Member
Thank you.
This is a much better service pattern then retaining such a runty bus route exclusively serving Emmett and spending half its time duplicating service on Jane and Eglinton