[Richard White]

I have heard third hand that it won’t open until January. The TTC is being very cautious about the operations handover and want to make some change orders.

oh ffs!

 

[T3G]

I can't see a January opening. It's one thing to open a fully underground subway extension in December (2017), but with the open air section, if the weather happens to be inclement on the day they choose and they encounter operational issues (frozen overhead wire/snowed in trackways) it will be another PR disaster for a project already elbow deep in scandal.

So if they miss October-November, I reckon April 2026 will be the earliest new window. Round and round it goes, where it ends, no one knows...

 

[juselara02]

I got a friend working at TTC. He is a civil engineer working in the line 2 extension so he is not directly involved in line 5. He told me in march that September was the planned date but now he told me yesterday that it seems very unlikely to be this year, that they believe now it may be January. So yeah, that adds up with what other have just said.

 

[TOtramz]

I got a friend working at TTC. He is a civil engineer working in the line 2 extension so he is not directly involved in line 5. He told me in march that September was the planned date but now he told me yesterday that it seems very unlikely to be this year, that they believe now it may be January. So yeah, that adds up with what other have just said.

was there any reason given for the added delay?

I mean as long as we still see consistent trains running on the line, I think things are still on track......

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

was there any reason given for the added delay?

Contract and administrative lawyers want to get bigger bonuses this year

 

[fiendishlibrarian]

Contract and administrative lawyers want to get bigger bonuses this year

That's not an exaggeration. Three of the major Bay Street law firms I've worked at have Metrolinx in the top ten of client revenue, almost solely for contract and litigation work.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

That's not an exaggeration. Three of the major Bay Street law firms I've worked at have Metrolinx in the top ten of client revenue, almost solely for contract and litigation work.

"Soft costs" take longer and increase the costs for Ontario, than in Italy. Lawyers are just one type of "soft costs".

See https://stateofcitiessummit.ca/files/041224_Understanding-the-Drivers-of-Transit-Construction-Costs-in-Canada-A-Comparative-Study.pdf

 

[Amare]

I mean at this point why even open it?

Let's just use it as a place where Alstom can model and test their vehicle models that they use. The stations themselves can be repurposed to overpriced storage facilities for the city.

What a gongshow.

 

[MegaSea]

I got a friend working at TTC. He is a civil engineer working in the line 2 extension so he is not directly involved in line 5. He told me in march that September was the planned date but now he told me yesterday that it seems very unlikely to be this year, that they believe now it may be January. So yeah, that adds up with what other have just said.

Blame TTC sucks.
I bet TTC want to won't to open Line 5 forever.

 

[PL1]

Blame TTC sucks.
I bet TTC want to won't to open Line 5 forever.

It's not the TTC's call. Blame Metrolinx, but they can't hand it to the TTC until Crosslinx is finished building it. It's a layer cake of issues

 

[toronto647]

I think you are wrong. By months.

@nfitz - based on these new comments saying January 2026, are we all still off by months? or is 2025 opening lock forsure?

 

[cplchanb]

If you want a good example of why its still not up this is one of them.... 9am this morning and workers are just idling. Not really the workers problem but for sure incompetent supervision and construction management. It's not like they are on their mid day break nor is it a hot humid day doing back breaking labor... they're most likely just doing warranty/commissioning related work and they're doing it so slovenly. There's just no sense of urgency since they just clock in on an extremely generous schedule. I'll bet if they were given 2 fewer hours on this task they'd be hurrying their ass up.

In the private construction business any needless idling like this is money and time wasted.

 

[cplchanb]

@nfitz - based on these new comments saying January 2026, are we all still off by months? or is 2025 opening lock forsure?

They need to make sept 2025 a hard deadline and then work backwards to figure out what they need to do to meet that target. Hire extra crews, work 24/7, skip non essential areas. Do what they're doing on the Gardiner to expedite.

 

[Mihairokov]

At this point we just fucking suck at building public transit infrastructure. Embarrassing.

 

[kev1n1m]

If you want a good example of why its still not up this is one of them.... 9am this morning and workers are just idling. Not really the workers problem but for sure incompetent supervision and construction management. It's not like they are on their mid day break nor is it a hot humid day doing back breaking labor... they're most likely just doing warranty/commissioning related work and they're doing it so slovenly. There's just no sense of urgency since they just clock in on an extremely generous schedule. I'll bet if they were given 2 fewer hours on this task they'd be hurrying their ass up.

In the private construction business any needless idling like this is money and time wasted.

What an absolutely unnecessary list of assumptions from someone who has no idea what is going on.

My only related comment is that public workers really need to be out of sight when they're not working/on break/waiting for something or someone because the uneducated public will take a photo and use it as clickbait to make ghastly presumptuous comments about an entire infrastructure project. Ridiculous.