Richard White
Senior Member
oh ffs!
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T3G
Senior Member
I can't see a January opening. It's one thing to open a fully underground subway extension in December (2017), but with the open air section, if the weather happens to be inclement on the day they choose and they encounter operational issues (frozen overhead wire/snowed in trackways) it will be another PR disaster for a project already elbow deep in scandal.
So if they miss October-November, I reckon April 2026 will be the earliest new window. Round and round it goes, where it ends, no one knows...
So if they miss October-November, I reckon April 2026 will be the earliest new window. Round and round it goes, where it ends, no one knows...
UT69420J
New Member
juselara02
New Member
I got a friend working at TTC. He is a civil engineer working in the line 2 extension so he is not directly involved in line 5. He told me in march that September was the planned date but now he told me yesterday that it seems very unlikely to be this year, that they believe now it may be January. So yeah, that adds up with what other have just said.
TOtramz
Active Member
was there any reason given for the added delay?
I mean as long as we still see consistent trains running on the line, I think things are still on track......
goodcitywhenfinished
Active Member
Contract and administrative lawyers want to get bigger bonuses this year
fiendishlibrarian
Active Member
That's not an exaggeration. Three of the major Bay Street law firms I've worked at have Metrolinx in the top ten of client revenue, almost solely for contract and litigation work.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
"Soft costs" take longer and increase the costs for Ontario, than in Italy. Lawyers are just one type of "soft costs".
See https://stateofcitiessummit.ca/files/041224_Understanding-the-Drivers-of-Transit-Construction-Costs-in-Canada-A-Comparative-Study.pdf
Amare
Senior Member
I mean at this point why even open it?
Let's just use it as a place where Alstom can model and test their vehicle models that they use. The stations themselves can be repurposed to overpriced storage facilities for the city.
What a gongshow.
Let's just use it as a place where Alstom can model and test their vehicle models that they use. The stations themselves can be repurposed to overpriced storage facilities for the city.
What a gongshow.
MegaSea
New Member
PL1
Senior Member
It's not the TTC's call. Blame Metrolinx, but they can't hand it to the TTC until Crosslinx is finished building it. It's a layer cake of issuesBlame TTC sucks.
I bet TTC want to won't to open Line 5 forever.
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toronto647
Active Member
@nfitz - based on these new comments saying January 2026, are we all still off by months? or is 2025 opening lock forsure?
cplchanb
Senior Member
If you want a good example of why its still not up this is one of them.... 9am this morning and workers are just idling. Not really the workers problem but for sure incompetent supervision and construction management. It's not like they are on their mid day break nor is it a hot humid day doing back breaking labor... they're most likely just doing warranty/commissioning related work and they're doing it so slovenly. There's just no sense of urgency since they just clock in on an extremely generous schedule. I'll bet if they were given 2 fewer hours on this task they'd be hurrying their ass up.
In the private construction business any needless idling like this is money and time wasted.
cplchanb
Senior Member
They need to make sept 2025 a hard deadline and then work backwards to figure out what they need to do to meet that target. Hire extra crews, work 24/7, skip non essential areas. Do what they're doing on the Gardiner to expedite.
Mihairokov
Active Member
At this point we just fucking suck at building public transit infrastructure. Embarrassing.