TRONto
Active Member
Looking mostly done at the bus terminal
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Looking mostly done at the bus terminal
Rainforest
Senior Member
drum118
Superstar
Lets see:
You take 32 to Mount Dennis, then Line 5 To Eglinton West, then 32 to Yonge, then X to go east of Yonge.
How is this not an force transfer???
What about other routes that currently go to Eglinton West that will stop at Mount Dennis or Keelesdale on opening of part of Line 5????
How do you get riders to Mount Dennis carhouse when there is no access there for them and what happen to Mount Dennis Station????
Sorry, but these dreams are off the wall. Do it right from day one or don't do them at all.
Steve X
Senior Member
Very inconvenient, yes. Let's remember this was how the scrapped Eglinton West subway was suppose to be. Terrible, isn't it.
This saturation is exactly like how one rider raking the 85 from east of Don Mills heading towards Sheppard West/TYSSE (e.g. a York U student) has to experience. Good luck transferring from Line 4 to the 84 Sheppard West bus (asking someone to show you one of the 2 ways before heading out solo is highly recommended). They would probably try to take the 939B instead. York U screwed them over by forcing another transfer at Finch West.
As we know from historic ridership, people didn't like the 139 Finch-Don Mills, 224 Vic Pk North and 268 Warden North heading to Don Mills to take a short subway. We'll see if the 35 Jane split at Mt Dennis would become permanent or be reverted. If the line doesn't go to Yonge, I can safely assume people would avoid Line 5 all together and head directly to Line 2.
Rainforest
Senior Member
No, you just take the bus from the west end all the way to Yonge; passing Mount Dennis and Eglinton West while staying on the bus. The short LRT segment will run in parallel with the bus, not instead of the bus.
The LRT will mostly serve riders who live near one of the early open stations (Mt Dennis, Keele, Oakwood, Dufferin). The bus will still do the bulk of work, until the full ECLRT opens.
Likewise. No changes to the bus routes while just the short segment of LRT runs. Changes to the bus routes will be in effect after the full ECLRT opens.
You don't need to get the riders to the carhouse. I only mentioned the carhouse location to remind that the suggested early LRT section has access to the carhouse.
drum118
Superstar
You are forgetting that TTC does not run parallel bus service for any underground system today and will not do what you are calling for. Those buses are to be assign to other routes that was to happen over a year ago regardless of COVID. A pure waste of resources and operation money.
As for the carhouse, you state it and that is a big different between it and the station.
What you want will not happen
T3G
Senior Member
This is not true, Yonge and Sheppard both have parallel bus services running above. And unless they've changed the plan of late, they are going to be running the 34 across the length of the Crosstown.
drum118
Superstar
97 runs part of the route and where no subway exist every 30 minutes carrying few riders due the spacing between stations. Its the same for Sheppard.
Big different between what being proposed for the partly opening of the LRT and no way could a 30 minute headway for 32/34 handle the ridership as proposed.
Rainforest
Senior Member
Well I wouldn't call it a waste, as the early operation of the LRT segment would assure a smooth grand launch of the whole line when it is ready.
However, the budget constraints are real, and have to be taken into account. Unfortunately, you are probably right; we won't see a staged opening.
T3G
Senior Member
The 97, at various times, runs along the entire length of the Yonge subway, as does Sheppard.
I know what the reason is for doing so, and you're right that the levels of service are different than what is being proposed here, but as an absolute statement "TTC does not run parallel bus service for any underground system today" is just not true.
Undead
Senior Member
Keelesdale today:
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youngblood
Active Member
Looks like keelesdale
Coolibop
Active Member
Saw the sprinklers watering the on track grass west of Kennedy? to vicpark. There is a section grass has completely gone brown and wonder if the sprinklers weren't installed yet. The gap where there is grass/not looks strange, it's very segmented and the overall finish of the stations looks drab. There were also already at least 3 panels of glass broken.
Pickring Go station has had broken windows on the pedestrian bridge for almost 4 years after reporting... I hope thst is not a sign of how they will maintain the Eglinton LRT infra. I never understood why Toronto was poor at the overall finish/polish/look of their stations.
Pickring Go station has had broken windows on the pedestrian bridge for almost 4 years after reporting... I hope thst is not a sign of how they will maintain the Eglinton LRT infra. I never understood why Toronto was poor at the overall finish/polish/look of their stations.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
The LED lighting on the Pickering bridge has also been messed up for well over a year. I hope there are no maintenance intensive art pieces on The Crosstown. We have a poor track record of taking care of things after they’ve been installed.
dkt
New Member
Is there a reason why the station ceiling is so high?