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Hi there, long time lurker and first post.

I am interested in development in Toronto and I get excited about the urban changes going on in the city. I am creating content on YouTube that you might find interesting and in particular at the moment on Crosstown.
No obligations but you can check out the channel in my signature.
Enjoy reviewing the threads on here as well and will be contributing going forward. If this post Is out of order I apologize but I thought the content is relevant and you all may be interested. I plan on improving the channel and it will have a lot of relevance to threads like this.

Cheers,

Graham
 
grammin said:
Hi there, long time lurker and first post.

I am interested in development in Toronto and I get excited about the urban changes going on in the city. I am creating content on YouTube that you might find interesting and in particular at the moment on Crosstown.
No obligations but you can check out the channel in my signature.
Enjoy reviewing the threads on here as well and will be contributing going forward. If this post Is out of order I apologize but I thought the content is relevant and you all may be interested. I plan on improving the channel and it will have a lot of relevance to threads like this.

Cheers,

Graham
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Welcome to Urban Toronto! Just checked out your YouTube page, some great videos of transit construction. Feel free to post videos in the appropriate threads. For the Crosstown/Line 5, UT has individual threads for each grade separated/underground station, with surface stations and general updates being posted here. There is also a dedicated thread for the Line 5 West Extension to Renforth. Happy posting!
 
Steve X said:
They aren't exactly inviting nor is there any sheltered public space for waiting. All recently built stations have an entrance building of some sort. Some of these buildings even house transformers, mechanical equipment and ventilation shafts. They exist as separate buildings on Line 1, just hidden so most would think they don't exist.

It'll just be something like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.658...!1szxpRfo_pU7JDKqNzLWlHHQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192\
Which is built into the station entrance buildings on the Crosstown.
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Isn’t the waiting area on the platform or in that in that mezzanine level between the train and the street? Unless they’re not planning to do that. Just seems wasteful to have these valuable corner real estate house a station entrance and nothing else.
 
trtcttc said:
Isn’t the waiting area on the platform or in that in that mezzanine level between the train and the street? Unless they’re not planning to do that. Just seems wasteful to have these valuable corner real estate house a station entrance and nothing else.
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Wait for an Uber/taxi perhaps?
 
trtcttc said:
Isn’t the waiting area on the platform or in that in that mezzanine level between the train and the street? Unless they’re not planning to do that. Just seems wasteful to have these valuable corner real estate house a station entrance and nothing else.
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Precisely my point. Wasted opportunity on prime land that's literally on top of the Crosstown stations.

All these stations should have been built with the foundations and load bearing capabilities to hold midrises above them. The construction of these midrises could have then be auctioned off to developers to recoup the costs of the Crosstown. Or, been handed over to HousingNowTO to build affordable housing.

Steve X said:
Wait for an Uber/taxi perhaps?
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Really hope you're joking! Haha. Tho, wasting millions of dollars of prime land in Toronto because a few folks might need to wait for an Uber seems to be a very possible scenario in Toronto.
 
Steve X said:
Wait for an Uber/taxi perhaps?
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I wouldn’t mind some stations having a pickup/ride share zone, but that’s not the case at most of these stations considering there’s no drive through lane or anything, just a big station box. Recently passed by Queen/Spadina and saw that the TD, Fancy Franks at the SW corner was closed due to expropriation by Metrolinx for Ontario Line. If they built retail or housing that would be much better investment with the healthy sums they paid to expropriate that land.
 
trtcttc said:
Isn’t the waiting area on the platform or in that in that mezzanine level between the train and the street? Unless they’re not planning to do that. Just seems wasteful to have these valuable corner real estate house a station entrance and nothing else.
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A good number of stations on the crosstown line don't have off-street bus terminals, so people will be waiting for the bus from inside the entrance as it would serve as a weather-protected waiting area, especially during inclement weather events.
It's impractical to wait on the mezzanine level, as you don't have the visual indication of the bus being present (The next bus predictions are just that.. predictions), and if the bus arrives slightly early, especially if there's multiple arriving at the same time, then you have to fight against the crowds of transfer traffic to head up to the surface and hope you can still catch it.
These stations would more or less operate like Dufferin station where the Crosstown station is just in the middle of the route (buses won't be laying over), where there's likely to be high passenger turnover, and there's still a good chunk of walk-in traffic that need to go on a north-south route without taking the crosstown, and the space really helps.

I believe prior to the renovations at Dufferin Station, the entrances were so small with little thought for the people that need to wait for the bus. While there wasn't as much space to expand on the East side of Dufferin, but the west side (transfer to SB buses) was such a relief to have that much more space available to wait, especially during heavy rain/snow events where people would be cramming inside the entrance to get away from the elements.

Technically, a condo could be built overtop these larger entrances still, but the developer would just have to acquire an adjacent property for the condo entrance in conjunction with acquiring air rights to be able to build on top, but it's not like we've never had buildings go on top of stations after they were built (Wellesley and York Mills stations come to mind).
 
^Call me curmudgeonly, but..... if I can still see orange pylons and construction signs in a photo, then road reconstruction is not "complete".

But there is substantial progress happening, which is very welcome.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
^Call me curmudgeonly, but..... if I can still see orange pylons and construction signs in a photo, then road reconstruction is not "complete".

But there is substantial progress happening, which is very welcome.

- Paul
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In the case of Brentcliffe, it is to guard a left-turn lane that didn't exist prior, and for which the signage still needs to be adjusted/removed.

As someone who passes that intersection every day, I can assure you that it is very welcome that the construction there is finally complete.

Dan
 
Took this two days ago overlooking the site south of Eglinton on Yonge. That's the pedestrian tunnel running E-W under Yonge visible on the right - looks like they're about ready to start formwork for its reconstruction.

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StroadWarrior said:
Took this two days ago overlooking the site south of Eglinton on Yonge. That's the pedestrian tunnel running E-W under Yonge visible on the right - looks like they're about ready to start formwork for its reconstruction.

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Wow there really is a ton of work left to do.
 
StroadWarrior said:
Took this two days ago overlooking the site south of Eglinton on Yonge. That's the pedestrian tunnel running E-W under Yonge visible on the right - looks like they're about ready to start formwork for its reconstruction.

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crazy to believe that Crosslinx is still on track to complete this only 6 days from now!

I mean seriously, when is Metrolinx going to say it's actually delayed again?
 
innsertnamehere said:
crazy to believe that Crosslinx is still on track to complete this only 6 days from now!

I mean seriously, when is Metrolinx going to say it's actually delayed again?
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Their official line in response to any questions about timeline has been end of 2022 for completion for some time now. Not that I think that's achievable either, but they haven't said September in a long time.
 
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