RedMelon
New Member
is this the eglinton light rail chat?
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Coolstar
Senior Member
Welcome
Yes, this the Eglinton Crosstown thread.
micheal_can
Senior Member
Cost is a big reason, speed and reliability is another.
Generally speaking trains need to go slower through switches. Having less switches allows a faster overall speed.
Switches can fail. Whether it won't move or has a broken rail, all of these add to the mess that is keeping trains on time.
generalcanada
Senior Member
Metrolinx CEO addresses litigation initiated by Crosslinx Transit Solutions regarding Eglinton Crosstown LRT project
Metrolinx CEO addresses litigation initiated by Crosslinx Transit Solutions regarding Eglinton Crosstown LRT project
blog.metrolinx.com
Yikes, theres no way this lawsuit holds up in court right? If CTS claims the governments refusal to declare an "emergency" for contract terms hurts their work progress, Metrolinx can just say you guys never completed your tasks on time. Covid did nothing to hurt you
Rainforest
Senior Member
This statement is truly brilliant.
As a vendor - if you need a good legal department then you are already in trouble. Or, you are the trouble.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
I'd love to take a peek at Crosslinx's finances, if only to get an understanding of what similar projects might cost in the future. Are they in the red hundreds of millions? Billions? Did the initial $5.4 Billion estimation from 2011ish anticipate the large escalations in the price of construction we've seen in Toronto over the years?
99Messier
New Member
We always say
- Design/Bid/Build - engineers have the power.
- Design/Build - contractor has the power.
- P3 - bankers and lawyers have the power.
TossYourJacket
Senior Member
At this point, I expect Crosslinx to deliver something as absolutely broken as RTG did in Ottawa. All while suing the province to rip off taxpayers as much as possible. What a total mess this project has become. I dread what will happen if Metrolinx continues to try and use these kind of agreements for projects like the Ontario Line.
jordanmkasla2009
Active Member
That may be true for the TTC's streetcar network switches due to some unique aspects to the surface network and that they are embedded, but that is not true for the majority of rail switches. A non-embedded switch, that uses standard profile rail, that is in "normal" position can be traversed at full line speed. Only when the switch is in "reverse" position is there a need to reduce speed. In the UK, for example, High Speed 1 has track switches that are traversed at 225-300 km/h when set in the "normal" or straight through position.
Steve X
Senior Member
Since we don't know the reason for the delay is cause by Crosslinx unable to build the project on time or ML keep changing their plans making it very difficult to stay on time, we can't just conclude one party is at fault.Metrolinx CEO addresses litigation initiated by Crosslinx Transit Solutions regarding Eglinton Crosstown LRT project
Metrolinx CEO addresses litigation initiated by Crosslinx Transit Solutions regarding Eglinton Crosstown LRT project
Yikes, theres no way this lawsuit holds up in court right? If CTS claims the governments refusal to declare an "emergency" for contract terms hurts their work progress, Metrolinx can just say you guys never completed your tasks on time. Covid did nothing to hurt you
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
What plans has MX changed recently?
drum118
Superstar
rbt
Senior Member
Metrolinx wants to continue with this type of agreement. Absolutely nobody is willing to make a bid on one though; this delayed GO Expansion and Union Station Expansion tenders. Ontario Line got the same type of response.
It's not an Ontario problem though, just a Metrolinx problem. Infrastructure Ontario continues to find numerous willing contractors for medical P3s (Hospitals, etc.).
Tunafish13
Active Member
Just as a side note, they are installing some of the additional barriers around the Pharmacy stop. I can try and get some photo's later if you guys want
smallspy
Senior Member
Cost is the biggest reason. It costs money to build them (especially in tunnels), and it costs money to maintain them.
Speed? Not a factor at all. Trains are able to operate at full speed over them in the straight leg of them (and there are turnouts that have been built that allow for speeds in excess of 200km/h on the diverging). (Yes, there may be rules regarding the speeds allowed over they, but those are generally not due to physical restrictions.)
Failure? Absolutely. Not just of the turnout itself, but also of the signal system that ties in with it.
Thus, all these things must be balanced against the increase in flexibility they allow. For instance, the TTC's standard is about every 4km of subway line.
Dan