[rbt]

ML has a contract that calls for delivery in Sept 2021 and for contractual/legal reasons they will have to insist on that date. But the more they insist on talking to that date, when it can’t happen, the more impotent and in denial they will sound.

I'm concerned they'll start mentioning damages for delays in the press as aggressively as they did with Bombardier and the price for GO Expansion (OnCorr contract) will go up 15% (a couple billion).

Having your named dragged through the press for several years is far more damaging than the late delivery fees.

 

[TransitBart]

We are getting a whole new line. The first since 2002 and Line 4. And this one actually goes somewhere (Aside: other than to North York MEC which is at Bessarion Station.)

It's 19km long and includes five interchanges from day one. Stop quibblin'. This is only a bump in the road. There will be more along the way. Hold on to your hats.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

I take no joy in this. I'm dyin' to use it.

Before the critics come out, forecast anything a decade ahead and see how close you come. This is largely on time and as big a number as $300 million is, it's a 2% variance with $12.2 billion.

What costs $12.2 Billion?

 

[TransitBart]

What costs $12.2 Billion?

Line 5 construction.

 

[Streety McCarface]

Line 5 construction.

I think you mean 5.3 billion...

 

[NoahB]

What costs $12.2 Billion?

Line 5 construction.

I think you mean 5.3 billion...

5.3 billion for constriction... 12.2 Billion in total cost including maintenance over 30(I think) years.
After what the Ontario Gov did to hamilton. The media is now reporting the total contract cost instead of just parroting Metrolinx's capital cost. I love it.

 

[Streety McCarface]

5.3 billion for constriction... 12.2 Billion in total cost including maintenance over 30(I think) years.
After what the Ontario Gov did to hamilton. The media is now reporting the total contract cost instead of just parroting Metrolinx's capital cost. I love it.

Even then, 12.2 billion sounds completely off. I recall the contract being 9.1 billion dollars.

$9.1B Crosstown LRT mega-contract comes in under estimates

The deal with Crosslinx includes 30 years of maintenance for the new transit line.

www.thestar.com

 

[Steve X]

Even then, 12.2 billion sounds completely off. I recall the contract being 9.1 billion dollars.

$9.1B Crosstown LRT mega-contract comes in under estimates

The deal with Crosslinx includes 30 years of maintenance for the new transit line.

www.thestar.com

It depends if it's 2010 dollars, 2019 dollars or 2051 dollars (30 years after expected completion).

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

5.3 billion for constriction... 12.2 Billion in total cost including maintenance over 30(I think) years.
After what the Ontario Gov did to hamilton. The media is now reporting the total contract cost instead of just parroting Metrolinx's capital cost. I love it.

It is pretty disingenuous.

Nobody buys a car thinking about the 30 year operating cost of said vehicle.

 

[Allandale25]

CP24 report. It contains a little bit more information on the "report the Star got their hands on".

Metrolinx says Crosstown LRT is on track

Anne Marie Aikins says Metrolinx is working to keep the Eglinton Crosstown LRT on track despite a report that it says it could be delayed.

www.cp24.com

 

[NoahB]

Even then, 12.2 billion sounds completely off. I recall the contract being 9.1 billion dollars.

$9.1B Crosstown LRT mega-contract comes in under estimates

The deal with Crosslinx includes 30 years of maintenance for the new transit line.

www.thestar.com

I remember it being 9 billion too. But The Star was reporting based on the number in the document. So I wonder what changed.
Also, note that in the 2015 Star article it mentions the tunneling isn't included in the cost. So it could be that as well as inflation.

The agreement covers all aspects of the transit line except the tunneling, which is already well underway. The TTC is expected to operate the LRT.

 

[NoahB]

CP24 report. It contains a little bit more information on the "report the Star got their hands on".

Metrolinx says Crosstown LRT is on track

Anne Marie Aikins says Metrolinx is working to keep the Eglinton Crosstown LRT on track despite a report that it says it could be delayed.

www.cp24.com

Metrolinx's response seems exactly the same as the REM's developers said about a report that leaked about a possible delay there. They called it a routine report that talks about possible risks but not a final indicator of a delay.

REM is on track to open by the end of 2021, Caisse insists as delays reported

The statement comes amid reports that extra work will be required inside the Mount Royal tunnel to overcome "major safety challenges."

montrealgazette.com

 

[Coolstar]

CP24 report. It contains a little bit more information on the "report the Star got their hands on".

Metrolinx says Crosstown LRT is on track

Anne Marie Aikins says Metrolinx is working to keep the Eglinton Crosstown LRT on track despite a report that it says it could be delayed.

www.cp24.com

Here's some things I caught from the video:
- We are at 12 Flexity Freedom vehicles and they are testing around the yard.
- They found a surprise at Eglinton Station anyone catching some Valley Line vibes and look how that turned out.
- Metrolinx claims to be on track for 2021.

 

[NoahB]

Maybe not as much for a car, but you would need to calculate the financing, maintenance, fees, and taxes cost when buying a home over the long run. Which is possibly a closer comparison.

It is a sound thing to keep track of in the long term finances (imo). But that doesn't mean that dollar figure is always costlier then the benefits it will bring to cities like Hamilton and Mississauga.

 

[Allandale25]

Here's some things I caught from the video:
- We are at 12 Flexity Freedom vehicles and they are testing around the yard.
- They found a surprise at Eglinton Station anyone catching some Valley Line vibes and look how that turned out.
- Metrolinx claims to be on track for 2021.

What's the Valley Line vibe? I'm not familiar with that situation. Able to expand?