[fanoftoronto]

Then they should stop claiming this as the 2nd Union Station. And treat it like any other GO/Ontario Line station...that is, it's just a transfer point and nothing more. Functional is fine here as long as they're not overstating it to be something more special than it will be. It's just Kipling Station 2.0...

...and save the hype for the Exhibition terminus, IMO.

Honestly I think the overall setup at Kipling is much better than the absolute trash we're getting at East Harbour.

Kipling station at least has a very functional and well outfitted subway station building and the new Transit Hub isn't too bad either for the MiWay and GO buses.

Only the GO station is bare bones and that definitely resembles East Harbour almost to a T. Just called down to 1 platform.

 

[reinventingthewheel]

Kipling station at least has a very functional and well outfitted subway station building

Please elaborate on what is so dysfunctional about the subway station part of East Harbour.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

In terms of the travel distance from GO to TTC/subway - East Harbour will be superior (and require less changes in levels as well).

Kipling station at least has a very functional and well outfitted subway station building and the new Transit Hub isn't too bad either for the MiWay and Go buses.

Except how far you have to travel to go from the regional terminal to the subway and GO. Sure it is all sheltered - but the walk takes 5 minutes.

AoD

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

...the point of contention here is that it doesn't look superior where it should. Not that it's impractical.

 

[fanoftoronto]

Please elaborate on what is so dysfunctional about the subway station part of East Harbour.

In terms of the travel distance from GO to TTC/subway - East Harbour will be superior (and require less changes in levels as well).



Except how far you have to travel to go from the regional terminal to the subway and GO. Sure it is all sheltered - but the walk takes 5 minutes.

AoD

...the point of contention here is that it doesn't look superior where it should. Not that it's impractical.

Apologies, @UtakataNoAnnex spelled out what I was implying with my post.

Kipling station is only a Mobility Hub and not being touted as a second Union Station or anything. And yet it has a sheltered TTC station with a very efficient bus terminal, a functional and well designed (though far) regional bus terminal for MiWay and GO, and a barebones GO train station (similar to many other GO stations across GTA).

The "second Union Station" should be striving for so much more than what we're getting if we're able to compare it with the likes of Kipling Station.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Kipling station is only a Mobility Hub and not being touted as a second Union Station or anything. And yet it has a sheltered TTC station with a very efficient bus terminal, a functional and well designed (though far) regional bus terminal for MiWay and GO, and a barebones GO train station (similar to many other GO stations across GTA).
The "second Union Station" should be striving for so much more than what we're getting if we're able to compare it with the likes of Kipling Station.

I think by this point no one will be considering East Harbour as a second Union Station of any kind, given the dramatically different land use from originally envisioned.

AoD

 

[Totti]

 

[blitzraj1]

Is there a pedestrian bridge being built connecting the Canary District?

 

[Dr. Snoot]

Is there a pedestrian bridge being built connecting the Canary District?

Long story short, a pedestrian and cycling bridge was in the scope of the original project but is not part of the recent construction contract and was quietly removed from Metrolinx's website.

Metrolinx claims it is still under discussion with the City, but we have our doubts. For a fuller picture and to see how you can help, see here: https://www.cdna.to/lower_don_pedestrian_cycling_bridge

 

[Toronto Rocks]

Is there a pedestrian bridge being built connecting the Canary District?

I believe the new arch bridge carrying the Ontario Line over the Don River has pedestrian access on both side.

 

[reinventingthewheel]

I believe the new arch bridge carrying the Ontario Line over the Don River has pedestrian access on both side.

I’ve seen no indication of this in writing and renders do not show any sort of path leading to either side of the bridge.

 

[bearcat]

Long story short, a pedestrian and cycling bridge was in the scope of the original project but is not part of the recent construction contract and was quietly removed from Metrolinx's website.

Metrolinx claims it is still under discussion with the City, but we have our doubts. For a fuller picture and to see how you can help, see here: https://www.cdna.to/lower_don_pedestrian_cycling_bridge

If they are already building a new bridge for Ontario Line, is it so difficult to add space for pedestrians and cyclists with a MUP?

It's nice to hear that someone's advocating for this!

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

It's a transit "hub" that wants to serve less and less people...making this just a rail station only once they've finished whittling it down. /sigh

 

[Dr. Snoot]

I believe the new arch bridge carrying the Ontario Line over the Don River has pedestrian access on both side.

It does not. It seems this so easily could have been built into the bridge, but this is Metrolinx.

At one point Metrolinx suggested that an alternative route for people in the Canary District to access East Harbour would be to walk up to Queen Street, across the Don Valley, and down Broadview, so we are really dealing with absurdists. Communication has been predictably bad.

 

[dob467]

I'm still hopeful that awful rendering is still some sort of place holder and we may see a revised design. At a Toronto Board of Trade event in June on infrastructure a representative from the East Harbour Transit Hub Alliance did a presentation on the project and quickly changed the slide that showed the recent rendering as if she didn't want to talk about it. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic here that something better is to come?