This is one of the rare occasions where I really, really care how they handle the podium, especially more so than the towers. It would be great if we got some good quality design on the towers that matched well with the podium, but if they pull off the towers well but not the podium, it would be really depressing tbh. This project needs to be done well, especially for an iconic building like this.

Ideally I would love to see 777 Bay demolished and the podium rebuilt on both the Yonge and College frontage (with Tyndall limestone) - and having the three towers reallocated - one at each corner, with the Yonge/College tower significantly taller and "muscular", serving as the centrepiece for the complex in proper NeoDeco. I would even agree with closing off that public (or POPS) linkage from the corner of Bay/College to the Barbara Ann Scott park to make it happen.

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A few things about this proposal concern me. Though I'm delighted to see the central and southern segments of the podium potentially finally realised (it's only been about a century after all), the incongruity of architectural elements between the old and new is a bit disappointing. In most cases, new additions to existing heritage structures are done in a style that, while complementary to the original, are also wholly modern. It's that distinction between old and new that tells a building's 'story' through the ages. A good example of this is Berlin's 'Neues Museum'', where the UK architect David Chipperfield rebuilt the WWII-damaged southern wing of the 1841 building in an overall modernist style(albeit with some hints to the original), while at the same time restoring the symmetry of the original structure. The issue here, as I see it, is that this 'addition' is not intended to be a modern take that complements the original(which, with the right architect, might be fantastic), but rather a continuation of what was planned but never built. That being said, why change or omit those architectural elements that make the original part of College Park so wonderful? Why go to all this expense and effort to create something that is essentially a pastiche of its northern counterpart? Interestingly, the original southern end of the Yonge St. elevation could never have been entirely symmetrical with its northern counterpart because, while it has six vertical banks of windows separated by seven engaged columns, the northern segment has seven banks of windows with eight columns. This might be explained if the original 'front' facade of the building was intended to be on College St., as its name suggests. If that is the case, then presumably, the unfinished westernmost segment of the College St. podium base that was demolished in the 1970s would have been identical to its eastern counterpart. My other criticism, albeit minor, is how this development presents onto the park itself, which, IMO, has always been a chaotic, visually busy mishmash of blank walls and multiple buildings with conflicting building styles. Aesthetically, it is a 'hot mess', a disappointing backside to a building that is one of this city's jewels and makes the park look like an afterthought(which, essentially, it is). This latest iteration, while definitely something of an improvement, could still do with further refinement.
 
I was at College Park this weekend & the shady areas of the Barbara Ann Scott park were full of people relaxing & taking it all in. Really hope that part isn't changed much. The sunken courtyard was less used, but now I know what the support structures are for (tarps). Some pics:
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The TTC better start planning a capacity enhancement project (yes that goes beyond the second entrance/exit project), because there's no way College Station will be able to handle this density influx at all.

It's already rammed in the peak periods, and there's no way it's going to be able to handle all this at platform level.
 
The TTC better start planning a capacity enhancement project (yes that goes beyond the second entrance/exit project), because there's no way College Station will be able to handle this density influx at all.

It's already rammed in the peak periods, and there's no way it's going to be able to handle all this at platform level.

The second exit and elevators are underway.

But yes, the main concourse and platform are challenged, as is the capacity in between same.

We'll have to see what this proposal does for that exactly, I know there is an intent to do 'something' that would be helpful.
 
The second exit and elevators are underway.

But yes, the main concourse and platform are challenged, as is the capacity in between same.

We'll have to see what this proposal does for that exactly, I know there is an intent to do 'something' that would be helpful.

The arrangement of the project left much to be desired - given it is basically a separate mezzanine to the existing one. I am not sure how much it will alleviate the existing overcrowding.

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The arrangement of the project left much to be desired - given it is basically a separate mezzanine to the existing one.

That's required in the second exit program, it's supposed to be a discrete path to the surface in the event of fire.

I am not sure how much it will alleviate the existing overcrowding.

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I think it will, to some degree, for now. In that it will allow the platform to clear more quickly after a train deboards; and it will divert of the crush load in the existing concourse to the new one.

But is it enough to address the crowds that would be generated by this proposal, the one on the HoJo site, and at 2 Carlton, etc. etc. Probably not.

The platforms, being within the Yonge ROW at this location, have little or no room for widening......In theory, I suppose, you should be able to go as deep as the stair/escalator cavities.

We'll have to see what this proposal does in that regard. 2 Carlton needs to accommodate the now street entrance and enlarge it by at at least 100%.

A third exit off the south end of the platforms might be of further assistance, possibly emerging in Aura's forlorn basement.
 
That's required in the second exit program, its supposed to be a discrete path to the surface in the event of fire.



I think it will, to some degree, for now. In that it will allow the platform to clear more quickly after a train deboards; and it will divert of the crush load in the existing concourse to the new one.

But is it enough to address the crowds that would be generated by this proposal, the one on the HoJo site, and at 2 Carlton, etc. etc. Probably not.

The platforms, being within the Yonge ROW at this location, have little or no room for widening......In theory, I suppose, you should be able to go as deep as the stair/escalator cavities.

We'll have to see what this proposal does in that regard. 2 Carlton needs to accommodate the now street entrance and enlarge it by at at least 100%.

A third exit off the south end of the platforms might be of further assistance, possibly emerging in Aura's forlorn basement.

The issue really isn't the width of the platforms - but the narrowness of the access to the platforms (stairs and escalators). The second exit project should help in this regard but it is hampered by the fact that the new mezzanine isn't connected to the old one, which meant that it won't be used much by those who aren't heading to College Park and the like.

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The issue really isn't the width of the platforms - but the narrowness of the access to the platforms (stairs and escalators). The second exit project should help in this regard but it is hampered by the fact that the new mezzanine isn't connected to the old one, which meant that it won't be used much by those who aren't heading to College Park and the like.

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The new exit does go to College Park.

But further south than the existing connection point.

Certainly though, your point stands in regards to anything at or north of Carlton.
 
The new exit does go to College Park.

But further south than the existing connection point.

Certainly though, your point stands in regards to anything at or north of Carlton.
Not only does the new exit go to College Park (entering it just south of the main elevator bank) it only goes to College Park, relying on the existing stairs, escalators and elevators in that building to reach the street as it doesn't have its own direct street access.
 
Not only does the new exit go to College Park (entering it just south of the main elevator bank) it only goes to College Park, relying on the existing stairs, escalators and elevators in that building to reach the street as it doesn't have its own direct street access.

It's tucked behind the Metro if I recall, where the washrooms used to be?

It's not ideal. But, of course, GWL were incredibly uncooperative with the the TTC/City and fought the connection. Interesting to see them now trying to appear magnanimous. I'm hopeful, but cautious.
 
Correct, though I believe the washrooms will remain unless that has changed recently.

They moved them to the Food Court.

A vast improvement over the old ones.

So far as I know, the old ones were closed when the new ones opened.
 

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