6ixGod
Active Member
No I wasn’t fortunate enough to ride the fish bowls lol.
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No I wasn’t fortunate enough to ride the fish bowls lol.
TOtramz
Active Member
According to this:
1.1km has been dug so far and anticipated end date for tunnelling is 2026.
Lawrence East bus terminal will be non fare-paid while Scarborough Centre and Sheppard East will be fare-paid
TTC says 11 bus bays at the new Scarborough Centre Station is inadequate for their needs.
generalcanada
Senior Member
Checks maps....yup still under the 401. LOL
PL1
Senior Member
2027 ML update: "The tunnel boring machine has completed 11 *hundred* metres of tunnel!"
kvvoyage
New Member
Why is the EELRT part of Line 5 on the map on page 10? I thought it's infrastructually impossible to integrate the two and they must operate separately?
Coolibop
Active Member
Is actually two shades of orange if you look closely... Deceptive much?
nfitz
Superstar
Bad colour choice.
On page 8 they refer to EELRT as Line 7.
It's not technically impossible, just expensive. And they've chosen not to.
In theory they could put down some shared ROW track along Eglinton for out-of-service vehicles, or something.
Coolibop
Active Member
Just to do the 'what we already know is a near impossible target' math...
This clocks the TBM down to about 1.8m/day since launch (1100m in about 20 months).
Estimating from the Metrolinx updates previously mentoned in the thread, they averaged 2.3m/day until it ran into problems. Here are the rough snapshots (date, total distance, speed from last snapshot) from updates I found previously:
Jan 2023 launch
Sep 2023 500m (2.1m/day)
Jan 2024 900m (3.3m/day)
Sep 2024 1100m (0.8m/day)
The remaining 5800m target by Jul 2026 (15 months from now) is not achievable if they max out the 'up to 10m/day' claims.
I think it's safe to say I'd eat my hat if this target is remotely met.
Edit: out of curiosity, if they get back to 3m/day, it will take another 5 years to dig... The anticipated opening year.
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Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
I guess that temporary busway will have plenty of time to be in service. Under the original timeline, it was only going to be around for a few years service, but I'm guessing it will be in use for a decade before the trains run
TOtramz
Active Member
it was that slow?! I would have thought they had reached the 10m/day target before it broke down......
On the bright side, all the equipment has been removed from the 401 intervention sites so I anticipate the TBM starting up soon
Coolibop
Active Member
Those are averages between updates, so it's possible it got to that speed at some point. It could have been sitting idle for a lot longer but we are not going to know that level of detail.
Also, to reiterate... the 10m/day is the theoretical maximum if all is perfect.
Amare
Senior Member
Really, again another suboptimal bus terminal design by Metrolinx?
Is there a damn thing that they can do properly asides from having their heads shoved up their consultants a*@*@?
For heavens sake listen to the organizations that you're partnering with.
Abdullah77
New Member
I am not an engineer or planner or any sort of expert in bus terminal design. But is it possible that TTC's conclusion that they need 11 bays is overkill? It might be that this number is based on outdated operating principles that are sacrosanct within the TTC. Metrolinx and whichever consultant advised them to have less bays may base this decision on more modern bus operating principles. Of course, TTC has the actual experience of operating a large urban bus network, so I think they know what they are talking about. But it is possible that the 11-bay requirement is based on outdated thinking and there are more efficient ways to run the system with less bays while ensuring maximum throughput and safety.
TOtramz
Active Member
no, TTC says 11 is inadequate because they want 18 bus bays
nfitz
Superstar
I can't see that they'll need more bus bays than they have now.no, TTC says 11 is inadequate because they want 18 bus bays
How many do they have now? Or at least pre-Line 3 closure?