rbt
Senior Member
Go RER/Expansion isn't a mess: it's approaching a full-fledged garbage dump. 10 years in April since funding was committed and design began, and we haven't even started the main construction component yet.
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Go RER/Expansion isn't a mess: it's approaching a full-fledged garbage dump. 10 years in April since funding was committed and design began, and we haven't even started the main construction component yet.
TOtramz
Active Member
nfitz
Superstar
Isn't that part of OnCorridor?How long has it been since they signed the contract for electrification? I wonder what all these consultants are doing all day.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
rbt
Senior Member
How long has it been since they signed the contract for electrification? I wonder what all these consultants are doing all day.
Coming up on 3 years (April) since ONxpress was selected. Doing 2 electrification EAs and 2 rounds of tendering took a lot of time before that contract was signed. Ontario Line planning didn't help but in this case I'm happy they tried planning a system rather than individual lines.
chrisw
Active Member
There was the 2 year development phase. Though, I was excited that something would get announced last year but Metrolinx hasn't announced anything even though they have a signed agreement with ONxpress.
generalcanada
Senior Member
Little off-topic but yea plus the service contract that got delayed by 10 months to October
nfitz
Superstar
I'd assume they need another signed agreement to get work started. Which if they haven't done yet, won't happen until after the election (depending who wins).
But - hold the presses.
Aecon did announce yesterday that "that an Aecon-led consortium has completed the collaborative development phase and reached commercial close on a progressive design-build transit project. The implementation phase will now commence under a target price contract. Aecon’s share of the contract is valued at over $2.8 billion ..."
Oh look - FCC made a similar announcement today for another $2.8 billion - https://www.aecon.com/press-room/news/2025/01/28/commercial-close-on-target-price-transit-project
I'm surprised the government wasn't trumpeting that they dropped $13.5 billion on transit the day before the election.
I should ping @Steve Munro so he can scoop the Star.
Edit - I see that @generalcanada has since mentioned this on the Go Construction thread, which would be the appropriate place for further discussion.
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generalcanada
Senior Member
From Aecon's insta:
This is apperently the ventilation plant at Kennedy.
This is apperently the ventilation plant at Kennedy.
PL1
Senior Member
Oh, I thought that might be the TBM Maintenance Facility
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere already, but I'm curious how they plan to maintain headways with 8km of new track, yet no new trains. And the T1 replacement order is for 6 trains less than what they currently have.
Is it just they have that many spares once all the T1s moved to line 2?
Is it just they have that many spares once all the T1s moved to line 2?
T3G
Senior Member
Not to worry, with the numpties at Metrolinx at the helm we will have T1 replacements on line long before anyone can even think about discussing a service plan for the SSE.
In all seriousness, I believe the plan was to short turn every other train at Kennedy. There are a maximum of 40 required T1 trains and 61 full trains available in stock.
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
In the article I've read it said with 55 trains they'll have 9 spares but there was no explanation of how they determined that was the number they needed. If that's based on short turning at Kennedy, that means there's not much room to improve headways if the SSE is more popular than they are expectingNot to worry, with the numpties at Metrolinx at the helm we will have T1 replacements on line long before anyone can even think about discussing a service plan for the SSE.
In all seriousness, I believe the plan was to short turn every other train at Kennedy. There are a maximum of 40 required T1 trains and 61 full trains available in stock.
TOtramz
Active Member
As an aside, I was reading the busway thread and I saw a comment about stopping the TBM and trying cut and cover instead. As a thought experiment, how feasible would it be to "remove" the TBM from where it is right now and lower some roadheader machines and start mining the rest of the tunnel ?
I'm no engineer or anything but could there be any conceivable benefit to switching away from TBM at this point?
?I'm no engineer or anything but could there be any conceivable benefit to switching away from TBM at this point?
81-717
Active Member
All kidding aside though... this is undoubtedly true, it's much easier to have the trains arrive on time (especially with funding secured & contract to be awarded in a year's time) than to build and open a new subway extension on time, and I'll be surprised if the SSE, OL or YNSE are ready within the next decade. There was talk that some of the initial 55 trains would go towards service expansion (especially on line 1) instead of replacement, but I think it's safe to say no such service expansion will be necessary until the extensions open long after the last T1s are replaced.Not to worry, with the numpties at Metrolinx at the helm we will have T1 replacements on line long before anyone can even think about discussing a service plan for the SSE.
Of course, they'd be damned if they don't use the same (or at least interoperable) ATC system across the entire network, especially to the point of having to decide at the production line which ATC system to shove into which train, keeping each one confined to only 1 line for its entire lifespan.
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