TwoWheelPoli
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tsm1072
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but the rental E-Scooter pilot in Burlington started to roll out today. Stations and scooters appeared along the centennial trail at some point during the day today. Not all the stations are in place yet, and I only saw 6 scooters parked, 3 at Appleby and 3 at Walkers. Scope seems pretty limited so I'm not sure how much use they will get, but it is a popular corridor for school kids to get around.
https://www.burlington.ca/en/council-and-city-administration/centennial-trail-e-scooter-pilot.aspx
https://www.burlington.ca/en/council-and-city-administration/centennial-trail-e-scooter-pilot.aspx
afransen
Senior Member
I'm not sure what to make of the scooter rideshare. It really is advisable to wear helmets with them, moreso than bikes. I think bikes make more sense as a helmet is not required.
PL1
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E bikes do require helmets
afransen
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I did not claim otherwise. But I think we should make some distinctions between lower powered ebikes that are pedal-assist only (that can't reach speeds much faster than a human could reasonably achieve on their own, like 20-25kph), which probably should not require helmets, and higher speed ebikes with throttle control which are obviously riskier.
PL1
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I read the "bikes do not require helmets" part of your post, and assumed you were including E-Bikes in that.
I agree the pedal-assist bikes Bike Share uses shouldn't need helmets
max
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Anyone know where to find a higher resolution version of that map? I'm on a computer and besides, I don't really want to install an app to try and judge whether this would be useful.
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TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
Makes me wonder if there are any GTA municipalities outside of Toronto that still haven't allowed e-scooters? Saw them appear in Vaughan over the past few weeks.
max
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From that website it seems that Burlington hasn't allowed person e-scooters:
So legally you can ride an e-scooter in Burlington only if you rent it from Scooty.
afransen
Senior Member
They are de facto legal throughout the GTA, including Toronto.
TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
They are not legal in Toronto. They opted out of the province's e-scooter pilot in 2021 and renewed the opt-out last year.
@max - Interesting note RE Burlington. Didn't know there were places where shared scooters are OK but not personal ones.
T3G
Senior Member
What is it going to take for this to change?
afransen
Senior Member
De facto legal in that they are widely used and limited enforcement action is taken to stop their use in the city. Just rideshare companies can't offer them for rent.
txlseries4
Active Member
During some committee meeting last year, maybe on an item about mobility options, I remember hearing staff providing rationale to a councillor about the ban and they said because of the frequency and size of potholes on Toronto's roads, which are larger than what e-scooter wheels are designed to handle, allowing them on the streets would put the city at risk of litigation from injuries...
Pretty goofy rationale IMO. I think the bigger factor is that constituents would go apeshit if council made them legal and I'm sure staff isn't going to legitimize that as a reason.
Pretty goofy rationale IMO. I think the bigger factor is that constituents would go apeshit if council made them legal and I'm sure staff isn't going to legitimize that as a reason.