Mihairokov
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It's been frequently reported that ICE detention facilities are substandard with people having to sleep standing up or in contaminated water, amongst other violations.
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Admiral Beez
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US study visa applicants told to make social media accounts 'public' amid vetting crackdown
Prospective international students in the US are being asked to adjust the privacy settings on their social media accounts to 'public'.
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I have no social media on my devices, nor any bookmarks/saved passwords to social media on my browsers. I'd recommend the same to anyone traveling to the USA or outside of Canada.
afransen
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A lot of leopard face eating going on...
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
Viewing people here as criminal is part of the problem here. It sets black and white narrative of an "us vs. them" mentality that only serves to escalate hate and injustices...instead we should look at them as human first bound to make mistakes and poor choices. So what we should be saying is, "You are here illegally unfortunately. But don't fret, here's what you need to do to stay." I know, radical stuff this is...
...but I am also careful to say this, because by all definitions the sitting President is in fact a convicted criminal...and one so without any seemingly any irony and with impunity here. I guess he's the right kinda criminal. /s
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kEiThZ
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Honestly, as someone whose family immigrated to Canada and who has family who immigrated to the US, I find the American debate a bit strange. Amongst a certain segment there almost seems to be an entitlement to residency in the US. And naturally there's a ton of pushback that comes with this. We see this in Canada now, even on legal immigration as competition for jobs, housing and social services increases. Racism and racial anxiety makes that worse.
Politically, it was always a bad idea for Democrats to go soft on immigration. It's great for their coalition. But it doesn't help with the median voter at all. Will be interesting to see our own politics around this shortly, when a whole bunch of students refuse to return to their country of origin (mostly India).
kEiThZ
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US study visa applicants told to make social media accounts 'public' amid vetting crackdown
Prospective international students in the US are being asked to adjust the privacy settings on their social media accounts to 'public'.
I have no social media on my devices, nor any bookmarks/saved passwords to social media on my browsers. I'd recommend the same to anyone traveling to the USA or outside of Canada.
I'm looking forward to Canada getting a lot more quality foreign students because of dumb rules like this. I applaud Americans shooting themselves in the foot.
Admiral Beez
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And considering that much of the US economy and food supply would collapse without these people, a path to legal status would make sense. We've already seen
begin to waver as his billionaire buds in hotels and agriculture complain about lost labour and profits.kEiThZ
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This is the part that is contentious. Especially among working class voters who see this lot as competition for employment and housing specifically.
And to anybody who thinks we're immune to this, go on to any Canadian forum dealing with real estate.
Admiral Beez
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My only request is that we limit foreign student approvals in any year to no more than 5% from any one country. There's a lot more to this world than China and India. Let's open ourselves up to more students from elsewhere. Africa, for example is the only continent with a positive birth rate, a good place to start.
kEiThZ
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And considering that much of the US economy and food supply would collapse without these people, a path to legal status would make sense. We've already seen
They should. But they won't. Making these workers legal would drastically raise their wages.
kEiThZ
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Why are you all of a sudden concerned where people come from? Sounds very American.
More seriously, immigration is supply and demand. You won't get a ton of people from Europe willing to come here. And limiting 40% of the world's population to 10% of student visa quota is a surefire way to get a mediocre foreign student cohort. If argue for a limits that are the same as the proportion of global population.
Mihairokov
Active Member
You realize that limiting the two largest supplies for a specific group is counter to the idea of attracting the best foreign talent, right?
Are you able to discern international students from India versus ones from Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.?
Are you able to discern international students from China versus ethnically Chinese students from Malaysia, Singapore, etc.?
This sort of question ("how do you know someone is a TFW?") went unanswered in the Dollarama thread. Are you able to discern an Indian-Canadian versus a foreign-Indian? Or is this just sort of a broad stroke sort of thing, similar to what ICE is doing in the US?
Admiral Beez
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Cast a wide net to seek out the best candidates from anywhere. Our own government recently advised DFAIT to look beyond India for international students. I assume this isn't based on racism, but more a wish to look more globally for the best candidates.
Why does what they look like matter to you? I'm suggesting that Canada cast a wide net for the best international students, rather than just focusing on India and China. As I said above, let's look at Africa where there are millions of young people, and yes let's also look to Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Singapore, why would you not?
Canada can definitely benefit from what ICE is doing, and we should invite qualified international students in the USA to transfer to Canada.
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UtakataNoAnnex
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One of the points on that Great Replacement Theory bingo card is to assume/propagate that immigrants are stealing jobs from everyone else. It never considers much of the working class is mostly made of immigrants, that much of the immigrants take on jobs the more established don't really want...or the very real problem of unemployment, competition and low wages are the folks up the top making all the self-interested decisions for them. And to put that mildly.
...and in the US, that echo chamber is dialed up to the nines currently. /bleh
kEiThZ
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To be fair, the current system are largely attracting people with money (and not even that much), not people with brains, who simply want to buy their way in, with BS programs designed to get them residency. We aren't seeing a lot of these folks line up for construction trades programs in college or STEM PhDs.