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We aren't the US or Israel or Iran either. But people sure get worked up about news from those places too even though it has little to no impact on most Canadians.

In this case, Iran covertly supporting separatist movements is actually quite relevant to Canada.

You said "But Iran isn't doing anything to us right?", and linked to an article that was about Iran and Scotland. You failed to show Iran was doing anything to us. If you have proof of that, share it.
 
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If it was me, I'd would be tempted in saying, "Don't let that door hit you in the ass on they way out, Mr. President!" But I am told negotiations are a complex matter... >.<
 
You said "But Iran isn't doing anything to us right?", and linked to an article that was about Iran and Scotland. You failed to show Iran was doing anything to us. If you have proof of that, share it.

Us. Collective West. And if they're meddling in British politics, not a stretch imagine them doing so in Canada, especially given the diaspora here (and their ties to the regime).

 
If it was me, I'd would be tempted in saying, "Don't let that door hit you in the ass on they way out, Mr. President!" But I am told negotiations are a complex matter... >.<

Must be nice to be rich and not have to worry about your job. Folks whose jobs rely on exports don't have the luxury of being smug over politics.
 
Must be nice to be rich and not have to worry about your job. Folks whose jobs rely on exports don't have the luxury of being smug over politics.
Doesn't stop Trump from being a big crybaby though. But yeah, you're right...the problem with him and his ilk is that they devoid of any real empathy. /bleh
 
Doesn't stop Trump from being a big crybaby though. But yeah, you're right...the problem with him and his ilk is that they devoid of any real empathy. /bleh

You seem to not be far from there either. If you think scoring political points are more important than securing the jobs of Canadians.
 
You seem to not be far from there either. If you think scoring political points are more important than securing the jobs of Canadians.
Oh... so that was directed to me then in the ad hominem, despite the fact that wasn't really meant to be taken seriously. But I don't expect everyone to get my drift when it what I say lacks the emotional context to which I have posted it. Fair point there I guess....

...however, and a big however at that, I am always taken back by clueless folks on the internets who claim things about myself not even those closest to me have ever said about me. So along with that idjit who claimed I was Brad Lamb the other day on another thread, I hope you don't mind sharing a cell with in my /quiet dungeon to take time think about that one. Thnkx!
 
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You seem to not be far from there either. If you think scoring political points are more important than securing the jobs of Canadians.

Ah yes, securing the jobs of Canadians until he throws another tantrum, and demands something else. You can't appease these Tin Pot dictators Neville... err kEiThZ.
 
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I never cease to be amazed and angered by the stupidity of our "leaders". Why did the Liberal government under Trudeau introduce this 3% DST? Why didn't our genius central banker PM scrap this tax when he was sworn in?

A DST was not agreed to when the USMCA was negotiated in 2018. The USMCA forbids implementation of such taxes, so Canada's implementation of a 3% DST, which primarily affects American companies since they dominate the online world, is an abrogation of the USMCA treaty by Canada, which gives Trump the excuse he needed to tear up the USMCA agreement. When the DST was first being discussed by the Trudeau government, there were warnings that it would lead to a trade war.

As much as I hate Trump - and I hate him with every fiber of my being I can't blame Trump for saying he is not going to negotiate further on a trade agreement.

Stop and think how stupid Trudeau was to pass this DST tax and how stupid it was of Carney to not scrap it immediately. The DST is expected to bring in $7 billion over 5 years, so about $1.4 billion in tax revenue a year. Compare that to the auto industry, which this DST tax now imperils. The Canadian auto industry employs 125,000 Canadians directly and 460,000 Canadians indirectly. It is estimated that the tax revenue from income tax alone is close to $10 billion a year. How many jobs in Canada will this DST tax create? Do Alphabet, Meta, Amazon, etc. employ half a million in Canada? Will this tax incentivize them to employ half a million Canadians?

I would hope that Carney will pick up the phone on Monday and tell Trump that Canada will drop the DST tax if Trump agrees to honor the USCMA agreement that he signed, including lifting all tariffs on Canadian goods and pledging to stop poaching Canadian automotive jobs. I am not holding out hope that that will happen. We are too far down this road.

Ever since Trump stated that Canada only works as the 51st state seven months ago, after Trudeau's disastrous visit to Mar-A-Lago, I have been waging an email campaign trying to alert our leaders in Ottawa and Queen's Park what Trump was going to do to Canada and how they needed to fight back but for seven our leaders have done nothing. I had high hopes that Harvard-educated central banker Carney would be so much better than Trudeau, but he has been nothing but a big disappointment so far. I will never forget Carney's visit to the Oval Office, where he sat silent next to Trump as Trump humiliated, taunted, and threatened Canadians. Carney just sat with a smile on his face as Trump declared he "did not want cars" and relished at the thought of the imminent demise of our auto industry because it was "overly reliant on the United States".

I am at the point now that if Trump offered Canadians to exchange our dollars for American dollars at par if we become the 51st state, I am ready to say "Deal!"
 
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^3% versus 25%, 50% even. While we can debate the merits of said tax, it is pretty clear whose being unreasonable and unfair here. Just saying.
 
^3% versus 25%, 50% even. While we can debate the merits of said tax, it is pretty clear whose being unreasonable and unfair here. Just saying.
The size of the tariff is not relevant. Canada and the United States had a free trade treaty that expressly forbade a digital services tax. When Trudeau unilaterally imposed a DST, he rendered the USMCA null and void in the eyes of the Americans, and in doing so, imperiled Canada's manufacturing economy.

A deal is a deal. Even a deal signed with Donald Trump. How can Canada insist that Trump abide by the USMCA that he negotiated and signed when idiot Justin Trudeau abrogated the agreement by implementing a DST?

I predict that at this rate, Canada will not have an automotive industry this time next year, and it's our most important industry. Was it worth risking an industry that is the lifeblood of the Ontario economy by imposing a DST tax that will bring in relatively little revenue and will not create one new job? And it is not just auto's what about our steel industry? What about Aerospace? Trump will not be satisfied with destroying our auto industry; he wants to destroy every Canadian industry, and figuratively speaking, our idiot politicians handed Trump the high-powered rifle to shoot us in our collective heads.
 
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The size of the tariff is not relevant. Canada and the United States had a free trade treaty that expressly forbade a digital services tax. When Trudeau unilaterally imposed a DST, he rendered the USMCA null and void in the eyes of the Americans, and in doing so, imperiled Canada's manufacturing economy.

It absolutely did not. No such clause appears anywhere in the text, nor has the U.S. ever asserted otherwise.

It asserted (when filing dispute solution under the USMCA) that the Digital Services Tax violated the agreement on the basis that it discriminated against U.S. companies in a general sense, which is precluded under the Treaty.

Canada's defense is that the tax does not in fact single out U.S. based digital services, the tax applies to all digital services with annual revenues exceeding 750M.

The complaint by the U.S Trade Representative can be found here:

A deal is a deal. Even a deal signed with Donald Trump. How can Canada insist that Trump abide by the USMCA that he negotiated and signed when idiot Justin Trudeau abrogated the agreement by implementing a DST?

Again, Canada has not breached the USMCA which does not forbid a DST.

I predict that at this rate, Canada will not have an automotive industry this time next year, and it's our most important industry. Was it worth risking an industry that is the lifeblood of the Ontario economy by imposing a DST tax that will bring in relatively little revenue and will not create one new job? And it is not just auto's what about our steel industry? What about Aerospace? Trump will not be satisfied with destroying our auto industry; he wants to destroy every Canadian industry, and figuratively speaking, our idiot politicians handed Trump the high-powered rifle to shoot us in our collective heads.

While this is a possible, if unlikely outcome (it would drastically increase the cost of cars made and sold inside the U.S. ), the economic consequences of proceeding with a DST should certainly be considered.

While there are ~600,000 jobs in Canada related in some way to the Auto Industry, there are ~240,000 related to the production of film and television which this tax is designed to fund.

Could a different vehicle (no pun intended) be found to garner that revenue? Sure. But this one was designed to capture a contribution from players who otherwise may not contribute, despite making profit in Canada.

Historically, all film and television rights (distribution and broadcast) were divided at the national level, this is/has been true around the world. This allowed local distributors/ broadcasters to acquire popular American films/shows and make profit on them in Canada (or France, or Australia etc.) which could then be reinvested in the local industry. Netflix et al. upended this model. The world could simply break Netflix by asserting local rights must continue to exist and geo-blocking the service off the Canadian internet entirely.

The 3% DST seems far more tame in comparison. You could expressly hit Canadian broadcasters with the same tax, but they, of course, already pay corporate taxes here, or would if they made any profit.

Its all rather more nuanced than you make it out to be.

Another option would simply be imposing Canadian content quotas on Netflix et al. As we are permitted to do under the USMCA by way way of an exemption for protecting cultural industries.

They could refuse, then be geo-blocked; or make the requisite investments. In most cases, it should be said, the streamers already make sufficient content here (because its cheaper) to meet the industrial aim of the policy, the challenge is that much of said content is not culturally Canadian. (ie. almost all Star Trek TV shows are shot at CBS facilities in Mississauga)
 
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