afransen said:
Somehow, there are trans and gay people who are fans of Kirk.
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As I’ve indicated, there are exceptions to any rule. The important thing here is most of them don’t.
 
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Experts Break Down Trump’s ‘Stroke’ and the President’s Other Rumored Health Issues​

From https://www.theroot.com/experts-break-down-trumps-stroke-and-the-presidents-oth-2000061484/slides/2

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At 79 years old, President Donald Trump is one of the oldest presidents in American history. And although age brings wisdom, it also brings health concerns that folks just can’t help but talk about it. In fact, since Trump was sworn back into office, people have noticed his droopy face and swollen ankles, although the president promises he’s in “perfect health.”

Given all of the rumors and speculation, doctors online are clearing everything up. So now, The Root is breaking down all of the misinformation, disinformation and exposing the truth about the leader of the free world’s health.
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Trump once declared he was in “perfect health,” but after photos began circling the internet of his legs, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt announced on July 17 that Trump was diagnosed with a “benign and common” vein condition known as chronic venous insufficiency. As we previously reported, Trump’s swollen ankles are indicative of him being at stage three of the condition. A cardiologist named Dr. Siya said on TikTok, “Chronic venous insufficiency is a benign condition. Please stop diagnosing people on the internet.”
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picard102 said:
They gave Kirk a standing ovation in the Parliament today. Embarrassing is the nicest way to put it.
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Do these ignorant clowns even understand what Kirk stood for?

Let me drop at least one big effing hint on their credulity: He was for the very political violence and discourse they were so righteously denouncing. He was not by any reasonable means in for open debate and free dialogue instead. They’re are completely deluding themselves if they think otherwise at best…

…and it all goes downhill from there.

The best thing they should have done to stand up to political violence is not even mentioned Kirk’s name whatsoever, IMO. And full stop!
 
UtakataNoAnnex said:
Do these ignorant clowns even understand what Kirk stood for?
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I did not follow Kirk, but I was aware of him and was not a fan of what I saw. However, in the wake of his death, I have learned that in the early part of summer, Kirk's views, especially on Israel, took a 180-degree turn. Kirk was once Israel's biggest booster on campus. Kirk was essential for Israel to capture the minds of the next generation of Americans. They have the Baby Boomers in their fold, but the Baby Boomers are dying out.

When Kirk started to go off script, he became a big problem for the Israel lobby that had paid him tens of millions over the years. It could be said that he became an existential threat to Israel, given his massive influence over young conservatives. At his last TPUSA event, he headlined Tucker Carlson and comedian Dave Smith, who are the most outspoken critics of Israel's influence on American government. His donors went crazy and started making threats. Netanyahu asked Kirk to visit Israel with an offer of a big cash infusion into TPUSA. Charlie Kirk refused! That probably sealed his fate.

Max Blumenthal from the Grayzone has done some amazing reporting in the last few days. He appeared with Judge Napolitano on Monday afternoon to reveal what he has learned so far (Max expects to learn more). Candace Owens, who was very close to Kirk - like a big sister - has been doing some great reporting on this angle of the story also.



You can read Max Blumenthal's coverage at this link: https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/15/bill-ackman-israel-intervention-charlie-kirk/
 
EBT said:
I did not follow Kirk, but I was aware of him and was not a fan of what I saw. However, in the wake of his death, I have learned that in the early part of summer, Kirk's views, especially on Israel, took a 180-degree turn. Kirk was once Israel's biggest booster on campus. Kirk was essential for Israel to capture the minds of the next generation of Americans. They have the Baby Boomers in their fold, but the Baby Boomers are dying out.

When Kirk started to go off script, he became a big problem for the Israel lobby that had paid him tens of millions over the years. It could be said that he became an existential threat to Israel, given his massive influence over young conservatives.
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A lot of people's views on Israel have changed over the last year and a half or so. I doubt that has anything to do with the kid who killed Kirk.
 
It doesn’t matter to me whether Kirk did a 180 on Israel, road Trump for not releasing the Epstein files or even orchestrated an anti-clubbing baby seals effort…

…he was awful and unrepentant in everything else. He never offered an apology or account to anything he said or did. And wholly claimed to be against anything that really required empathy.

To be clear, I am against him (or anyone for that fact) getting popped off regardless the motive or reasons…and violence has no place in political discourse..but this guy should never be put on a pedestal by anyone unless they plan to support what he said and/or was about.
 
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