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The federal Underused Housing Tax targets foreign investors, as does the ban on foreigners buying residential property in Canada. Mr. Pasalis goes much further on investors by suggesting:
  • a minimum down payment on investment properties of 35 per cent;
  • taxing capital gains on properties as regular income;
  • eliminating mortgage interest deductibility for investors.

This is tantamount to banning investor-owned rental property. In other words, only government would be interested in owning rental property. The last point on investment loan interest deductibility would upend Canadian tax law. People who don't know what they are talking about should refrain from such specific policy recommendations...
 
This is tantamount to banning investor-owned rental property.
REITs and rental corporations would still be fine. What we’d slow/stop was individual investors encouraging developers to build unliveable studios and micro units when 2-3 bedroom family units are needed. I’d be fine with that.

 
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This is tantamount to banning investor-owned rental property. In other words, only government would be interested in owning rental property. The last point on investment loan interest deductibility would upend Canadian tax law. People who don't know what they are talking about should refrain from such specific policy recommendations...

I don't have a problem with this.

I would argue that the consequences of an out-of-control condo market, building unlivable units have been very serious.

Are there other ways to limit the damage? Sure.

I've suggested going at it from the other end by simply banning pre-construction sales entirely. You can only sell a home or condo that's fully complete and can be legally occupied immediately.

I've also suggested higher minimum down payments, though I think 25% would be sufficient.

I also favour higher capital gains inclusion rates, and either capping or eliminating the primary residence exemption.

Its immoral, to me, that as someone with an investment portfolio I can pay a lower effective tax rate than someone making minimum wage, because of the capital gains issue as well as myriad tax shelters (legal) such as RRSPs, TFSAs etc ec.

Just on capital gains alone, if I earn $100,000 from that, on stocks, I pay tax as if I earned $50,000, - minus the basic exemption, so less than 35k.

A Full Time earner, taking in 50k from their job, would pay roughly the same tax.

When you factor in tax shelters, as noted above........they actually would likely pay more in absolute dollars, not just rate.

Real-Estate flipping can be even worse...........whether one uses the primary residence exemption, or whether one uses deducted interest costs.....the effective tax rate paid is again much lower than an worker/earner pulling in a similar or even lesser gross sum.
 
REITs and rental corporations would still be fine. What we’d slow/stop was individual investors encouraging developers to build unliveable studios and micro units when 2-3 bedroom family units are needed. I’d be fine with that.

All you'd be doing is forcing private landlords to form corporations to hold their property. But the proposal was to disallow mortgage interest as a business expense, which doesn't make much sense from a tax law standpoint. This would impact corporate landlords as well.
 
I would argue that the consequences of an out-of-control condo market, building unlivable units have been very serious.
We must come up with a means of undoing what's been already done here. I'd support financial incentives to developers and owners/investors to buy-out and convert existing studio and micro unit condos into livable 2-3 bedroom units. If we don't convert these units the city will be stuck with thousands of vacant micro condos, suitable only for AirBnBs while we sink into a housing crisis.

Now, combining two condos into one is not easy, as shown below. But I'm suggesting entire floors of condos being gutted and rebuilt, rather than knocking down a connecting wall.


On the plus side, today's condos have no solid walls between them, relying on two layers of drywall for security and fire safety. If you had a drywall handsaw you could easily slice your way into your neighbour's unit.
 
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We must come up with a means of undoing what's been already done here. I'd support financial incentives to developers and owners/investors to buy-out and convert existing studio and micro unit condos into livable 2-3 bedroom units. If we don't convert these units the city will be stuck with thousands of micro condos while we sink into a housing crisis.

I agree, though it irks me that we're bailing out people who made the mess in the first place. I feel like the gov't should get at least something back in exchange for a subsidy.
 
I wouldn't even support that. They need to learn their lesson.

AoD

I feel that way too; the question is.........do we let thousands of micro-units just languish vacant until???

Do we expect other investors to come along and buy side by side units and spend the dough to combine them without any incentive?

Its an interesting question, with no particularly appealing answers.
 
I feel that way too; the question is.........do we let thousands of micro-units just languish vacant until???

Do we expect other investors to come along and buy side by side units and spend the dough to combine them without any incentive?

Its an interesting question, with no particularly appealing answers.

Any attempt by government to insert themselves prior to the involved parties getting their just desserts is basically a form of moral hazard. If these units languish before that point, so be it.

AoD
 
I agree, though it irks me that we're bailing out people who made the mess in the first place. I feel like the gov't should get at least something back in exchange for a subsidy.
What does it matter if it is bailing people out. To me, this is the immediate solution today to acquiring lots of affordable and ready-built housing on the cheap, while keeping business confidence in the Toronto real estate market for continued investment.
 
I feel that way too; the question is.........do we let thousands of micro-units just languish vacant until???

Do we expect other investors to come along and buy side by side units and spend the dough to combine them without any incentive?

Its an interesting question, with no particularly appealing answers.
If these units are unappealing for residents, perhaps they could work as short term rentals like Airbnb. I'm not sure I see the logic in eliminating existing units in a housing shortage. Surely it would make more sense to instead build new units that are more livable?
 

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