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I can understand some people might think of work as an annoyance, but I'm 60, and I can't imagine retiring even though I'm at it seven days a week more often than not. I can't imagine getting my CPP and OAS before 70 unless I have to.
Depends on if you love your job and maintain a passion for it - if you do, then there's no reason to retire at all. In my case, I'm utterly ambivalent about my work and spend most of the day in a state of mild resentment about it, thinking "This job is preventing me from doing all the things that I actually want to do. Why am I here???"
 
A few days ago I raise the topic of a Canadian sovereign wealth fund. This could be similar to the CPP Fund, only funded through government borrowing rather than payroll tax contributions. At any rate, this led me to do a bit of digging on the CPP. National Bank has a research note from 2023 talking about how, by some measures, Canada was in a very good fiscal position. According to the IMF''s favoured measure of net debt, Canada had a public sector net debt of only 14% of GDP, much lower than G7 peers. This is largely due to the significant public assets, such as the CPP Fund. (Note: I agree that the CPP should not be seen as a 'piggy bank' to justify increase government borrowing or to fund spending, but rather that it represents a funding of public sector pensions that in most countries are unfunded/pay as you go). It's an interesting bit of research. Canada is not that far off from Norway in terms of net public debt. We are closer to being in Norway's position than the US's (on a % of GDP basis)!

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This thenled to me think a bit more about how the CPP will eventually represent a very significant portion of GDP over time. By 2050, Canada's real GDP is projected to grow to about $5B, or $8.2B in nominal terms. Meanwhile, CPP Investments in their 2025 report projects the fund to grow to $3.5T in assets by 2050, from $0.714T in 2025. That would be around 43% of GDP by that time. And course, CPP Investments has tended to be pretty conservative in their projections of future assets over time.

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That made me wonder just how conservative they had been. I took a look at the 2015 report. At that time, they projected 2025 assets to be in the low $400B range by 2025, and that it wouldn't reach its current $700B range until the late 2030s.

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Let's go back even further and take a look at the 2005 report, back when CPPIB was just getting started (thanks Chretien/Martin!)...

At that point, the Fund projected having $200B in assets by 2015 (vs $264B actually reached).

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Given that track record of 'sandbagging'/conservatism, that suggests the CPP may actually by underestimating 2050 assets by around a factor of 2, and actual assets might end up closer to $6.5-7T, or 82% of GDP. It certainly leads to some serious questions about at what point does the CPP so much more in assets than required to meet benefits obligations that benefits could be increased or (my preference) contributions decreased to what is actually actuarially fair. I say that because the current contribution rate is higher than it would need to be to pay for the current level of benefits, it's just that current workers are overcontributing to make the fund sustainable and repair previous unsound management of the pension scheme up to the '90s.

Anyway, just a bit of geekery that I thought I would share.
 
@afransen One of my favorite CPP indicators is Assets/Expenditures.

The CPPIB has continued to outperform and this ratio has performed better than expected. While current Canadians might not be able to take advantage of the outperformance, it means a more resilient fund will be there in the future, more resistant to shocks.

The Additional CPP is also a good comparison, as a fully funded program it's projected to plateau at 25x Assets/Expenditures. And it only requires an equivalent 6% contribution rate instead of 9.9%. Also you can see how big of an impact 9.9% vs 9.56% contribution rates for Base CPP makes.

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From the latest Actuarial Report from 2022. We can expect another Actuarial Report this year!
 
@afransen One of my favorite CPP indicators is Assets/Expenditures.

The CPPIB has continued to outperform and this ratio has performed better than expected. While current Canadians might not be able to take advantage of the outperformance, it means a more resilient fund will be there in the future, more resistant to shocks.

The Additional CPP is also a good comparison, as a fully funded program it's projected to plateau at 25x Assets/Expenditures. And it only requires an equivalent 6% contribution rate instead of 9.9%. Also you can see how big of an impact 9.9% vs 9.56% contribution rates for Base CPP makes.

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From the latest Actuarial Report from 2022. We can expect another Actuarial Report this year!
Interesting! I dug up the 2015 Actuarial report, and the projection for assets/expenditures in that report, for 2025, was 6.49x. Compared to actuals of I'm assuming over 10x when we get the updated report. Feels like a big error for 10 years. It's fair that we have to wait until the projections show we can expect 25x ratio to be reached before re-evaluating contributions, but it's also fair to say that the actuarial modelling has been very conservative. They also were projecting 2075 A/E ratio of 7.46x in 2015 vs revised projection of nearly 12x in the last report.

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@afransen The contribution rate would be 6% if it reached 25x, that's a big drop from 9.9%. We could see drops before then. It should be noted that the mandate is just steady state funding, there's projected growth as a buffer over these long time horizons.

Yes, the CPPIB has performed better than expected. This is also something called "experience", they explain in each report why we ended up doing better or worse. I think it's prudent to keep conservative assumptions, you can't assume they keep outperforming, and there are many other compounding variables.

12x in 2075 is because the mandatory contribution level was calculated so low at 9.56%. We'll see if that drops further in the next report. (It was 9.79% in 2015).

Steady state funding - It requires the A/E to be stable between 13 and 63 years from now. The fund was beefed up but the strengthening is also owned by future Canadians.
 

Inside Mark Carney's PMO where ministers get called out, punctuality matters and patience is on short supply​


From https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/inside-mark-carneys-pmo-where-punctuality-matters

Days after the federal election, Prime Minister Mark Carney stepped into the National Press Theatre and did something Canadians hadn’t seen in nearly 10 years under Justin Trudeau: he started the press conference virtually on time.

Carney’s punctuality was a stark contrast with Trudeau, who would frequently start events 30 to 60 minutes later than planned. It is also one of many emerging differences in how the former central banker runs his office, cabinet and caucus compared with his predecessor.

Gone is the indecision that marred Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s office, with important decision documents often sitting weeks or months on the desk of chief of staff Katie Telford. Some bottlenecks still exist, but they are more the product of an understaffed Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) serving a political neophyte.

Carney, 60, also cares deeply about professionalism in his office. Staff are expected to dress in formal business attire and documents are to be written using British spelling, for example.

American spelling is a no, no, it seems. Must be a left over from Mark Carney's days as Governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020.
 

Inside Mark Carney's PMO where ministers get called out, punctuality matters and patience is on short supply​


From https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/inside-mark-carneys-pmo-where-punctuality-matters







American spelling is a no, no, it seems. Must be a left over from Mark Carney's days as Governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020.
This could be a good thing the way this pans out. Or it could go the way of Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs... >.<
 
Not Canadian spelling, which is distinct from both?
I'm wondering if that's what the author, or whoever he was interviewing, meant. some people assume the difference between 'cheque' and 'check' is British vs American. I'm not sure we will be saying 'aluminium' any time soon.

Between his academic background and his time in financial c-suites, I'm not surprised by his reported tone and standards. Micromanaging can be a downfall unless he feels he needs to develop and a level of confidence in those around him.
 
I'm wondering if that's what the author, or whoever he was interviewing, meant. some people assume the difference between 'cheque' and 'check' is British vs American. I'm not sure we will be saying 'aluminium' any time soon.

Between his academic background and his time in financial c-suites, I'm not surprised by his reported tone and standards. Micromanaging can be a downfall unless he feels he needs to develop and a level of confidence in those around him.
To make an odd connection I noticed, Keith Pelley, the CEO of Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment, came across very much the same as Mark Carney in his season-end press conference on Friday announcing the departure of Leafs President Brendan Shanahan, not replacing him and leaving the position vacant, plus announcing further "streamlining of the business" was to come "impacting all divisions of MLSE".

Very business executive-like, with lots of floury language that only tangentially answered the reporters' questions, or sometimes did not answer them at all yet still went on for several minutes about totally unrelated items.
 
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