Admiral Beez
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He'll be smart to keep Freeland away from anything to do with foreign affairs, international trade or US relations.
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Monarch Butterfly
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Mark Carney was born in Fort Smith, Northwest Territories, and raised in Edmonton, Alberta.
Born and raised in Calgary, Alberta, Pierre Poilievre moved to Ottawa in 2000 to work for Canadian Alliance leader Stockwell Day.
afransen
Senior Member
That would be scandalous. If the monarch can't be arsed to act as our head of state out of deference to a foreign power, then that really calls into question their legitimacy.
Jonny5
Senior Member
Looks like Australia went full Canada, note the "Liberals" in Australia are a center-right party like the Canadian Conservatives.
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afransen
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I think @Admiral Beez deleted the comment, but even if the King were itching to step up, if it is the UK government dictating to the King whether he should fulfill his duties as head of state of Canada, that would be another big problem. That is the fundamental problem with two self-governing countries sharing a head of state.
lenaitch
Senior Member
The UK government has no role in advising the Monarch in its role as the King of Canada, let alone "dictating" what the Monarchy should or shouldn't do.
afransen
Senior Member
He suggested that the King might be eager but unable to fulfill his role. I presumed he meant that the UK government would be what would hold him back.
zang
Senior Member
Carpetbagging. Gotta love it. Though I suppose he initially did the same to get the Carleton seat.CTV is now reporting PP will run in Battle River—Crowfoot and the incumbent will resign, it's a rural Alberta riding and essentially one of the safest Conservative ridings in Canada with 80% support in recent votes.
Conservative MP gives up seat for Pierre Poilievre to run in byelection
A Conservative MP is giving up his seat to allow Pierre Poilievre to run in a byelection after Prime Minister Mark Carney said he’d be ready to call one 'as soon as possible.'www.ctvnews.ca
Unfortunately though, these kind of moves wholly damage our democracy. Can someone who doesn’t even live in an area truly represent the needs of those who have lived there all their lives? Especially when it’s purely for political gain.
The next time we open up the constitution (I think we’re overdue) I’d love to see parliament implement a restriction on having to live in a riding before being able to run in it. Not that long, living there a year or two would do. But it’d certainly stop the airdropping of candidates purely for party gain. The whole point of local representatives should be self evident.
zang
Senior Member
Uhhh, our Liberals started drifting centre-right a long time ago…
lenaitch
Senior Member
All moot now anyway. He's coming.
If they/we did such a thing, any time limit would be completely arbitrary. Two years? Five Years? Born and raised? I doubt there would be empirical data supporting any limit. In some, mostly rural areas of the country, you're an 'outsider' if your family isn't multi-generationally local. In small, dense urban ridings, residency rules would be even more difficult, or is 'close' close enough? What if riding boundaries get changed?
At the constitutional level, where things are 'writ large', seemingly small changes are complex.
MisterF
Senior Member
They did us one better - Labor got a majority.
Does anyone know why the Australian Labor party spells its name the American way?
afransen
Senior Member
From Wikipedia:
Australian Labor Party - Wikipedia
Name and spelling
[edit]In standard Australian English, the word labour is spelt with a u. However, the political party uses the spelling Labor, without a u. There was originally no standardised spelling of the party's name, with Labor and Labour both in common usage. According to Ross McMullin, who wrote an official history of the Labor Party, the title page of the proceedings of the Federal Conference used the spelling "Labor" in 1902, "Labour" in 1905 and 1908, and then "Labor" from 1912 onwards.[12] In 1908, James Catts put forward a motion at the Federal Conference that "the name of the party be the Australian Labour Party", which was carried by 22 votes to 2. A separate motion recommending state branches adopt the name was defeated. There was no uniformity of party names until 1918 when the Federal party resolved that state branches should adopt the name "Australian Labor Party", now spelt without a u. Each state branch had previously used a different name, due to their different origins.[13][a]
Although the ALP officially adopted the spelling without a u, it took decades for the official spelling to achieve widespread acceptance.[16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Labor_Party#cite_note-21 According to McMullin, "the way the spelling of 'Labor Party' was consolidated had more to do with the chap who ended up being in charge of printing the federal conference report than any other reason".[20] Some sources have attributed the official choice of Labor to influence from King O'Malley, who was born in the United States and was reputedly an advocate of English-language spelling reform; the spelling without a u is the standard form in American English.[21][22]
Andrew Scott, who wrote "Running on Empty: 'Modernising' the British and Australian Labour Parties", suggests that the adoption of the spelling without a u "signified one of the ALP's earliest attempts at modernisation", and served the purpose of differentiating the party from the Australian labour movement as a whole and distinguishing it from other British Empire labour parties. The decision to include the word "Australian" in the party's name, rather than just "Labour Party" as in the United Kingdom, Scott attributes to "the greater importance of nationalism for the founders of the colonial parties".[23]
MisterF
Senior Member
Interesting, thanks!
zang
Senior Member
Would it be arbitrary? If that's arbitrary, then the three years wait to move from Permanent Resident to Canadian Citizen is too.
Time gives you the opportunity to make connections, understand the local people and situation and make informed actions. Running in a riding that one has stepped into maybe once or twice in their lives—if at all—is the antithesis of local representation. You can't represent what you don't know. I'm quite sure the whole point of ridings in the modern parliamentary system (post-Lords) was so that locals could bring their best forward, to stand as their representative. Not some jackhole with a hubris problem to parachute in because it's convenient.
guavadelic
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Trump setting the stage for a contentious meeting with Carney on Tuesday.