Civdis
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Got it, so they are at least future proofing the QEW for 4 lanes eastbound
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Civdis
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Seems odd to me that they wouldn't just build a 4 lane eastbound cross section under the new Dixie Rd bridge now. Why wait until later, as it appears it will be a 4 lane cross section to the east and west of the bridge.
SR95
New Member
If I had to guess it's kicking the can down the road due to budgetary constraints, like all levels of government in this country tend to do lol
drum118
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The QEW id being widen to 4 lanes in Mississauga where i will be an HOV lane
innsertnamehere
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I'm really not sure why MTO is not making it 4 lanes in each direction to Cawthra - the plan is officially to eventually have it be 3+1 HOV between Dixie and the 403, whenever money is lined up for that.
I suspect that MTO doesn't plan for there to be 4 GP lanes eastbound between Cawthra and the QEW, so doesn't want to build a GP lane and convert it to HOV later. Westbound, I suspect they don't plan the HOV to begin until Cawthra.. and the traffic pressures are higher to allow a 4th GP lane run through.
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I suspect that MTO doesn't plan for there to be 4 GP lanes eastbound between Cawthra and the QEW, so doesn't want to build a GP lane and convert it to HOV later. Westbound, I suspect they don't plan the HOV to begin until Cawthra.. and the traffic pressures are higher to allow a 4th GP lane run through.
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Civdis
Active Member
That makes sense
Bernie_B
New Member
Correct. The widening at the QEW at Dixie is meant as a provision to accommodate the future HOV lanes on both bounds (3 GPL + 1 HOV) from Trafalgar to Etobicoke Creek. But that wont in place until similar widening is completed at the all interchanges in between. Cawthra will be next.
innsertnamehere
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Dixie, Hurontario, Credit River Bridge, Erin Mills, and the 403 interchange have already been rebuilt for the widening.
I believe Cawthra and Winston Churchill aren't strictly required to be replaced - but MTO would need to "squeeze" the HOV underneath them a bit.
Honestly once Dixie wraps up, the structures will be mostly ready for the HOV. MTO will need to do quite a bit of service road realignments still though, particularly between Hurontario and Dixie.
I believe Cawthra and Winston Churchill aren't strictly required to be replaced - but MTO would need to "squeeze" the HOV underneath them a bit.
Honestly once Dixie wraps up, the structures will be mostly ready for the HOV. MTO will need to do quite a bit of service road realignments still though, particularly between Hurontario and Dixie.
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Sauga89
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In the (very) long run, I sometimes wonder if we would be better off with BRT in the QEW median instead of HOV in Mississauga. If they had put in island platforms as part of the interchange rebuilds, buses with doors on the left wouldn't need to leave the highway. I know the Lakeshore West line is close to the QEW, but it isn't walking distance, and there are a number of sites which would be great for transit oriented development (Sherway Gardens Mall, Dixie Outlet Mall, the Hurontario/QEW area, Sheridan Centre mall, and the Winston Churchill/QEW area). They could build a new Kipling/QEW GO station on the canpa subdivision to take people downtown, or extend the BRT through Etobicoke to the new Park Lawn GO.
drum118
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The BRT would work for a few depending on where they are going to/from as well if there is transit to stations along the QEW.
The big issues with an BRT and stations on the QEW is MTO policy of not removing lanes and lands from any highway under their control if a bus does not meet the 3 second rule considering they carry far more than a car. Using the 3 second rule for the HOV lane, its possible you may see 60-80/per minute people in vehicles or 3600-4800/per hour at peak time for maximum limit, but more like 2500 from all the illegal single drivers that used that lane today.
Depending on the type of bus been use for the BRT, at maybe carry 55 to 85 running every 5 minute, the best you will get is 1100-1750 and why MTO opposite transit using the HOV. On top of that. you need road space to put in stations and there are a fair number of locations where it is impossible to put in stations where there should be as the corridor is max and no room to increase it. Then you need land on both side of the QEW to build access to the overhead walkway to the bus stop as well where drivers can leave their cars.
The other option is going LRT in place of BRT at will carry far more per hour than an BRT, but does have some restrictions.
Since the BRT/LRT lane will not work, you are better off looking at an elevated line, but it will have to go high for overpasses and flyover ramps. Even then, there is still land for access to the elevated line as well some bridges will not support the elevated line. Doing the elevated line on the Gardiner has a number of issues as well where do you place the Toronto Station?
drum118
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May 30
There are nightly lane closures as they are removing the existing sound barrier wall from Dixie to past Ogden Ave through the construction barriers are in place to Cawthra. Only a short section to be remove east of the walkway bridge for the south service road. The south service road from where it currently connects to the QEW up to the curve area is seeing post installed along with some of the new barrier wall.
From Dixie going west, the 4th lane base is in place with a small section missing where the existing barrier wall still has to be remove. A small section of the 4th lane has been pave to allow for the S lane movement west of Dixie where 2 lanes are out of service for a small section of roadwork. The main focus is getting the eastbound 4th lane in place as well the off ramp for Dixie.
The storm water pond is complete with water in the pond now
2nd posting will be for the walkway.
More up on my site
There are nightly lane closures as they are removing the existing sound barrier wall from Dixie to past Ogden Ave through the construction barriers are in place to Cawthra. Only a short section to be remove east of the walkway bridge for the south service road. The south service road from where it currently connects to the QEW up to the curve area is seeing post installed along with some of the new barrier wall.
From Dixie going west, the 4th lane base is in place with a small section missing where the existing barrier wall still has to be remove. A small section of the 4th lane has been pave to allow for the S lane movement west of Dixie where 2 lanes are out of service for a small section of roadwork. The main focus is getting the eastbound 4th lane in place as well the off ramp for Dixie.
The storm water pond is complete with water in the pond now
2nd posting will be for the walkway.
More up on my site
drum118
Superstar
May 30
Part 2 with more photos up on my site
The walkway bridge for Ogden is 99% complete with a few small things to be done on the south end. They have installed about a 20' fence on two sides of the ramp area with a section missing due to the ramp so close to two home.
All the sound barrier wall is gone and the base is in place for the 4th lane. Hard to tell if more of the sound barrier is coming down from where it stops to Cawthra for the South Service Rd,
Both the asphalt and the base of the old North service Rd has been remove with concrete curb to be pour where traffic used to be as well getting to the road. Not sure why a sidewalk is being built on the south side of the North Service Rd other than for new bus stops since there used to be no room for them in the past. There is no room from where the new Service Rd ends toward Cawthra to allow bus stops considering there are stops on the north sides. Construction barriers are in place on the QEW from Dixie to Cawthra to allow the removal of the existing sound barrier that will see a new one built next to the new Service Rd to allow room for the 4th lane.
Part 2 with more photos up on my site
The walkway bridge for Ogden is 99% complete with a few small things to be done on the south end. They have installed about a 20' fence on two sides of the ramp area with a section missing due to the ramp so close to two home.
All the sound barrier wall is gone and the base is in place for the 4th lane. Hard to tell if more of the sound barrier is coming down from where it stops to Cawthra for the South Service Rd,
Both the asphalt and the base of the old North service Rd has been remove with concrete curb to be pour where traffic used to be as well getting to the road. Not sure why a sidewalk is being built on the south side of the North Service Rd other than for new bus stops since there used to be no room for them in the past. There is no room from where the new Service Rd ends toward Cawthra to allow bus stops considering there are stops on the north sides. Construction barriers are in place on the QEW from Dixie to Cawthra to allow the removal of the existing sound barrier that will see a new one built next to the new Service Rd to allow room for the 4th lane.
drum118
Superstar
June 6
Driving east on the QEW today, the construction barrier starts about midway between Ogden and Cawthra. Crew digging up the area at Ogden for the 4th lane with that small section of sound barrier. Lots of stakes in the ground next to the service road.
Core drilling in the close westbound lane as noted above in my shot above on May 30 where something was taking place, A good chunk of the sound barrier wall has been removed from the Dixie QEW off ramp to the west side of Dixie with the posts still in place
Driving east on the QEW today, the construction barrier starts about midway between Ogden and Cawthra. Crew digging up the area at Ogden for the 4th lane with that small section of sound barrier. Lots of stakes in the ground next to the service road.
Core drilling in the close westbound lane as noted above in my shot above on May 30 where something was taking place, A good chunk of the sound barrier wall has been removed from the Dixie QEW off ramp to the west side of Dixie with the posts still in place
drum118
Superstar
July 23
Had a looked at at Dixie Rd and some of the area today. Paving was taking place where the southbound ramp will connect to the new on lane going east on the QEW with the 4th lane paved as a subbase. Paving was taking place over by Ogden and too far to get any real good shots and will have to take a look at some point. Most of the curb for the northbound traffic is poured and waiting for the subbase to be pave. At the rate they are going, the eastbound off/on ramps could be open this fall.
The storm pond is full now.
Dixie Rd and Sherway Dr intersection is fully built with traffic lights in place for the intersection. Even the centre medium is in place north of the intersection. There is no access to the houses on Dixie Rd south of Sherway Dr as it is block off and have to use the side streets to get to it. That section of the road has a circle to do a U-turn, but not fully completed.
Looking at the wide open area for the westbound QQE is odd with all the sound barrier gone and graded. Could see no work has started to finish the Dixie off ramp by the Etobicoke Creek area. Post are being installed for the new sound barrier on the westside of Dixie that will connect to the new one to the west. The westbound work will be the last thing to be done in 2026.
Photos to follow later.
Had a looked at at Dixie Rd and some of the area today. Paving was taking place where the southbound ramp will connect to the new on lane going east on the QEW with the 4th lane paved as a subbase. Paving was taking place over by Ogden and too far to get any real good shots and will have to take a look at some point. Most of the curb for the northbound traffic is poured and waiting for the subbase to be pave. At the rate they are going, the eastbound off/on ramps could be open this fall.
The storm pond is full now.
Dixie Rd and Sherway Dr intersection is fully built with traffic lights in place for the intersection. Even the centre medium is in place north of the intersection. There is no access to the houses on Dixie Rd south of Sherway Dr as it is block off and have to use the side streets to get to it. That section of the road has a circle to do a U-turn, but not fully completed.
Looking at the wide open area for the westbound QQE is odd with all the sound barrier gone and graded. Could see no work has started to finish the Dixie off ramp by the Etobicoke Creek area. Post are being installed for the new sound barrier on the westside of Dixie that will connect to the new one to the west. The westbound work will be the last thing to be done in 2026.
Photos to follow later.
jscan
New Member
Have been involved in the QEW/Dixie project since the beginning ,very much appreciate your input and photos.
Would like to take this opportunity to ask the help of everybody in this forum , since the start of the project we've been plagued by illegal dumping, in excess of 250 to date ,
we've managed to trace a few of them, but it continues mostly in weekends and evening.
If you see any dumping after hours please let us know at qew-dixie@amico.build or call 1-888-777-8958
Thank you.
Would like to take this opportunity to ask the help of everybody in this forum , since the start of the project we've been plagued by illegal dumping, in excess of 250 to date ,
we've managed to trace a few of them, but it continues mostly in weekends and evening.
If you see any dumping after hours please let us know at qew-dixie@amico.build or call 1-888-777-8958
Thank you.