[DSCToronto]

Precisely, this is a TTC issue. Build the infrastructure like George Street in Sydney and then pressure the TTC to do better. Toronto can be painfully parochial at times, but that's not a reason to throw one's hands in the air and give up. Having a pedestrian realm as appealing as Sydney feels like fantasy in 2025 but we have to start somewhere.

Agree 100%. It is always best to start by assuming that we can be and do better but good to remember that this is usually the result of citizen pressure and high expectations! (And that initial perfection may not be possible but it should remain the ultimate aim!)

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Here’s a functional passive barrier in Brussels, albeit much more hardcore!

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMkxmHXCc/
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Unfortunately, putting in a gate like this would be the responsibility of Toronto Transportation Service. They don't see public transit (nor pedestrians) as "transportation". Their "priority" is still the single-occupant SUV.

 

[DSCToronto]

Unfortunately, putting in a gate like this would be the responsibility of Toronto Transportation Service. They don't see public transit (nor pedestrians) as "transportation". Their "priority" is still the single-occupant SUV.

Why do you persist in posting messages like this (on many threads)? I think most of us know that you seem to believe this - even if we do not share your opinion.

 

[Steve X]

A pedestrian friendly design along a transit mall would be more suited for a tourist and recreational setting. People can hop on to get to their next destination along the corridor. Speed wouldn’t be too much of a factor if they are going to be on it for 10 minutes.
Perhaps they can even do a free fare zone like Calgary does in the downtown stretch since they can’t enforce fares anyways.
For those who needs to get to places fast, the can hopefully use the Ontario Line when it exists.

 

[Northern Light]

An update on the corridor, enforcement activities and infrastructure improvements is on the agenda of the next I&E ctte meeting.

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/ie/bgrd/backgroundfile-253219.pdf

From the above:

Transit Innovation Challenge - call for applications to innovate cameras that can properly record someone intentionally blocking an intersection.

On the elevated platforms at Streetcar stops.....work is advancing......but rather more slowly than I would have liked:

On the other hand there has been more progress via City Planning, getting improvements delivered by developers when they finish up and rebuild their adjacent streetscapes:

The intent remains to deliver higher quality, permanent improvements when road resurfacing/reconstruction occurs, but much of that work has been kicked down the road:

 

[bearcat]

An update on the corridor, enforcement activities and infrastructure improvements is on the agenda of the next I&E ctte meeting.

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/ie/bgrd/backgroundfile-253219.pdf

From the above:

Transit Innovation Challenge - call for applications to innovate cameras that can properly record someone intentionally blocking an intersection.

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On the elevated platforms at Streetcar stops.....work is advancing......but rather more slowly than I would have liked:

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On the other hand there has been more progress via City Planning, getting improvements delivered by developers when they finish up and rebuild their adjacent streetscapes:

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The intent remains to deliver higher quality, permanent improvements when road resurfacing/reconstruction occurs, but much of that work has been kicked down the road:

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Is the grand plan/vision at all to accommodate cycling along King (with room in what was the curb lane), or the ultimate goal a "transit mall" with sidewalks widened into the curb lanes and only streetcar tracks remaining (other then the use of curb lane by cars for garage access in select areas)?

With Adelaide and Richmond right there and potentially Wellington in the future I am okay personally with no cycling allowed along King.

 

[Northern Light]

Is the grand plan/vision at all to accommodate cycling along King (with room in what was the curb lane), or the ultimate goal a "transit mall" with sidewalks widened into the curb lanes and only streetcar tracks remaining (other then the use of curb lane by cars for garage access in select areas)?

There is no fully conceived grand plan.

Nothing is that cooked.

But what's being edged forward is more transit mall than anything.

Cycling facilities are not contemplated.

They run on Richmond/Adelaide to the north, and if the province relents, on Wellington, The Esplanade and maybe portions of Front to the south.

 

[bearcat]

This was posted on Twitter by Toronto Cycling and Pedestrian Project Unit. I believe these are pretty new.

 

[DSCToronto]

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This was posted on Twitter by Toronto Cycling and Pedestrian Project Unit. I believe these are pretty new.

The TTC announced them last fall and, if I remember right, will be at all stops on King from Bathurst to Jarvis. Certainly better than the stick-on yellow strips they have tried up to now - many are loose and major trip hazards!

 

[drum118]

The TTC announced them last fall and, if I remember right, will be at all stops on King from Bathurst to Jarvis. Certainly better than the stick-on yellow strips they have tried up to now - many are loose and major trip hazards!

A few been around well over a year with some being used for bus stops.

 

[Jonny5]

The TTC announced them last fall and, if I remember right, will be at all stops on King from Bathurst to Jarvis. Certainly better than the stick-on yellow strips they have tried up to now - many are loose and major trip hazards!

I wonder how long until we get a video of an Uber parked on one saying "my passenger is coming now, it's just for a few seconds!"
I will guess three days.

 

[drum118]

I wonder how long until we get a video of an Uber parked on one saying "my passenger is coming now, it's just for a few seconds!"
I will guess three days.

For a diver to use the platform means driving up on the raise area from the road exposing themself to the police and impacting traffic as well riders. Worse case is to add a few more pillions

 

[dob467]

I find it quite awkward to cycle over the raised platforms on King. They'd likely be even trickier in winter. I regularly use Richmond and Adelaide the full length from Bathurst to Sherbourne. Even though my office is on Wellington, south of King. Do others similarly avoid cycling on King even with these transit priority changes? It largely feels like the plan is centred on transit users and pedestrians, which I'm fine with. Just curious if others feel the same.

 

[Mihairokov]

I almost always bike on Adelaide and Richmond because of the bike lanes. Couldn't tell you the last time I biked on King, and especially King East.

 

[reinventingthewheel]

I almost always bike on King because of the very low volume of cars – and streetcars travel on a predictable path.