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From this Doug Ford vid at the Alstom shops there is this GO Transit Bombardier Cab Car (one of 242-250).

Note how it has been graffitied near the lower level.
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And here, there is 7 refurbished GO Cab Cars all at the ONR shops. And the one in the shops seems to have the reflective striping originally placed on them.
 
It will be funny to see you people morn the loss of the MP40PHs and (eventually) the Bombardier bi-level cars when it all gets phased out with electric and/or dual mode locomotives (Siemens Chargers possible?) and eventually EMUs like the Alstom X'Trapolis or X'Trapolis Duplex.
 
What possible reason would they have for phasing out the BiLevels? The newest ones were only built two years ago!
 
Also the system would need to be well upgraded to make good use of EMUs, such as more infill stops and renovated facilities.

And BiLevels would still be needed on the non electrified portions of the network.
 
What possible reason would they have for phasing out the BiLevels? The newest ones were only built two years ago!
I said EVENTUALLY. What's the point of electrification if your not eventually going to use EMUs, like every electrified line in Europe and Asia?
 
What is the timeframe for "eventually"? The Series I BiLevels have been around since the late 1970s and underwent their most recent refurbishments a few years ago. A coach is basically a shell and is much easier to keep going for decades than a locomotive or transit vehicle.

As for what's the point... eliminating diesel emissions is not enough? Why replace perfectly functional rolling stock that you can get decades of use out of? If you want to purchase EMUs for service expansions, by all means, but making what we have last as long as possible in addition to buying new equipment would be the best decision.

Which is why I don't expect Metrolinx to do it.
 
What is the timeframe for "eventually"? The Series I BiLevels have been around since the late 1970s and underwent their most recent refurbishments a few years ago. A coach is basically a shell and is much easier to keep going for decades than a locomotive or transit vehicle.

As for what's the point... eliminating diesel emissions is not enough? Why replace perfectly functional rolling stock that you can get decades of use out of? If you want to purchase EMUs for service expansions, by all means, but making what we have last as long as possible in addition to buying new equipment would be the best decision.

Which is why I don't expect Metrolinx to do it.
Quicker accel and decel.
Never mind the marketing material that feature EMUs. I did not say throw them out or whatever. The bi modes (assuming we get bi modes) can pull the bi-levels. But I would hope we stop buying any more.
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But I would hope we stop buying any more.
I think that is the case, since GO isn’t ordering any more from Alstom. I think now they are focusing on getting the BiLevels refurbished so that they can continue to be used when electrification arrives.
 

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