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Westey said:
I wonder if it's a money-making exercise to cover/roof the subway (e.g. Yonge north of Bloor) and then build over top of it.
(in reality, I think it might make more sense to build a park over the subway and build on adjacent parkland).
Improved reliability. "Found" land. More density close to subway.
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There is a known tendency for most types of third rail shoe to have issues when the snow gets higher than the rail itself. The cover helps protect the rail if the snow is falling straight, but with the blowing snow that was happening yesterday it becomes more problematic.

In most circumstances the passage of the trains - and their 12 pickup shoes per side - is enough to clear the railhead, but considering how hard the snow was coming down it just wasn't enough this time.

Dan
 
evandyk said:
CBC Traffic Report this morning: "Not surprisingly, there is no service on Line 6 and shuttle buses are running."

It's a punch line at this point.
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well to be fair none of the above ground rail sections on Lines 1 and 2 are running as well. this was a large storm event that was beyond the design of any rail, even Via.
 
Westey said:
I wonder if it's a money-making exercise to cover/roof the subway (e.g. Yonge north of Bloor) and then build over top of it.
(in reality, I think it might make more sense to build a park over the subway and build on adjacent parkland).
Improved reliability. "Found" land. More density close to subway.
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There is a case for this, and it's been done many times before in Toronto. See for example the line between St Clair and Summerhill that used to be above ground. However that has almost nothing to do with snow - it's extremely rare for snow to fall so quickly it overwhelms the trains' ability to clear snow from the tracks and third rail. The reason to deck over the subway is just more efficient land use in a densely populated area.
 
cplchanb said:
well to be fair none of the above ground rail sections on Lines 1 and 2 are running as well. this was a large storm event that was beyond the design of any rail, even Via.
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That's no excuse, at all. And if Metrolinx wants to keep accepting this laughing stalk Mosaic's maintenance practices (or lack thereof), then they are just as equally incompetent and useless.

In cases like this, it's trickier to clear big time snow like this from the open cut sections of track in the TTC's conventional subway system.

In the case of Line 6, you get a damn snow plough to clear out the ROW, then you get a crew to clear the switches, honestly it's not rocket science. But yet both Mosaic and Metrolinx seem to think that it is.
 
Amare said:
That's no excuse, at all. And if Metrolinx wants to keep accepting this laughing stalk Mosaic's maintenance practices (or lack thereof), then they are just as equally incompetent and useless.

In cases like this, it's trickier to clear big time snow like this from the open cut sections of track in the TTC's conventional subway system.

In the case of Line 6, you get a damn snow plough to clear out the ROW, then you get a crew to clear the switches, honestly it's not rocket science. But yet both Mosaic and Metrolinx seem to think that it is.
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"equally incompetent and useless"...still have a question about that?
 
Allandale25 said:
Interview on CityNews with Michael Lindsay. I don't have time at the moment to see if it's on their website for non-X users or download and post the full interview but I could try later.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015820798162833504
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I stopped watching after he said "what we're seeing right now is the maturing of human processes that go with operations and maintenance particularly around the clearing of switches".

I'm sorry, but if the maturing of human processes doesnt involve basic common sense, then all parties involved are clueless. Everyone is tired of hearing stories about these "contractors and sub-contractors". It is your responsibility as the project management firm (per se), to get them in line, and if they dont then you penalize the hell out of them or you ultimately fire them.

If you cant fire them or issue stringent penalties, than you as the project management firm have failed.

Clearly "the various partners and parties" CANNOT work together, and it's time for a drastic change to how transit is built in this city because this crap is inexcusable stupidity.

Good on the reporter for pressing the CEO as he did.
 
reaperexpress said:
There is a case for this, and it's been done many times before in Toronto. See for example the line between St Clair and Summerhill that used to be above ground. However that has almost nothing to do with snow - it's extremely rare for snow to fall so quickly it overwhelms the trains' ability to clear snow from the tracks and third rail. The reason to deck over the subway is just more efficient land use in a densely populated area.
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This is a bad day to say this, I know, but... Uncover the St. Clair to Summerhill track! I like a nice view.
 
What an absolute disaster! If no one wants to take responsibility for this disaster of a line, then how can we realistically expect it to improve or get fixed?

First 30 seconds of that interview and Michael Lyndsay says there is nothing wrong with the construction of the line. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Bojaxs said:
nothing wrong with the construction of the line.
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Really? What about the curve radiuses near the terminus stations. What a clown.

And what an oxymoron: "took responsibility for the issues plaguing the Finch West LRT but pointed the finger largely at a third-party contractor for not properly clearing snow and ice."

The most pressing issue as of the last how many days and weeks, is shutdowns due to poor winterization. There were dozens of full and partial shutdowns even before yesterday.
 
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