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T3G
Senior Member
Well, it might happen if the schedule underestimates the travel time, like it did on Finch.
Otherwise, you're correct. If every vehicle is supposed to have the exact same travel time, it doesn't track logically that they'd be bunching up. I swear I've rebutted this nonsense claim on here at least 4 times over the last few years. Why the hell does it keep coming up?
Bojaxs
Senior Member
So extended delays at underground stations to maintain spacing.
A 6264
Active Member
You've seen those toy marble and track sets, where the track is like a roller coaster. Marbles run fast on some sections, and slow on others, where a motorized section brings the marbles back to the top. Do the marbles "bunch up" on the slow sections? Yes they do, but that doesn't change the rate of speed on the fast sections, nor does it change the overall rate of travel. If the track is set up to have 1 marble pass a certain point every 15 seconds, that's the time between marbles everywhere on the track, in fast and slow sections. I'm not saying you're wrong, because I don't know what you mean, but some people think that having slow sections on a track affects the fast sections, or causes a bottleneck that's something more than just the slow section.
ARG1
Senior Member
I'll be nice and say that the section between Mt Olive and Rowntree Mills isn't that bad. At least the trains can reach 60km/h on this section.
Adjei
Senior Member
We need more of this bad press.
Rainforest
Senior Member
No, they do not need to stop and wait to adjust the spacing.
Let's say they run at 30 kph in the tunnel section, and the service interval is 5 min. That means, the distance between the trains in the tunnel is 30 x 5 / 60 = 2.5 km.
Then, one of them exits the tunnel, and runs on surface at 20 kph. At that point, the next train is 2.5 km behind.
In the next 5 min, the first train covers 20 x 5 / 60 = 1.67 km. The next train (still undrground) covers 30 x 5 / 60 = 2.5 km, and reaches the tunnel exit. Thus, the distance between the trains naturally shrunk from 2.5 km to 1.67 km. Neither of the trains had to stop and wait just to make the right distance.
And after that, both trains run on surface at 20 kph, and the distance between them (1.67 km) does not change.
jmi22
Active Member
Ditto, managed to catch a "mommy why are we going so slow" sound bite while recording the painfully slow stretch east of Islington.
6ixGod
Active Member
The heat is on……I feel like we should organise a mass reachout to City Hall and force the CIty of Toronto to allow TTC to operate signal priority. Maybe even stick up posters at the stations to get people to write in.
The frustration is definitely there….and since it’s ripe, people will likely call it out…..before they get accustomed to this nonsense.
The frustration is definitely there….and since it’s ripe, people will likely call it out…..before they get accustomed to this nonsense.
jmi22
Active Member
Intensification usually follows infrastructure build-out when that infrastructure REDUCES travel times.
With our stinking hot real estate market, faltering economy, and progress going nowhere in terms of housing policy, expect Finch West to keep looking like Finch West for a long time coming.
jmi22
Active Member
If only Ford had killed a transit city route and then replaced it with an elevated metro, maybe it would even be under construction right now...! True fanfic alas...
Thaboss
Active Member
As a reference point, over 400 runners ran this year's Toronto Marathon 10-kilometre event in under 55 minutes.
CBC - I said it first. Where is my credit lol
We need media to bang the drum! When crosstown opens we need to hear them do it even more!!
Also y'all should read this article. It gives a sort of nuanced perspective of the LRT from local riders.
Can the Finch West LRT Keep Up With Its Promises
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duffo
Active Member
Edmonton's Valley Line LRT, a 13.1km LRT running mostly at-grade using the same Bombardier Flexitys as Line 5 and the TTC streetcars, has an average speed of 26 km/h. What are they doing right that TTC is doing wrong?
Amare
Senior Member
It's more of what the TTC wrong; it's an inept organization that does everything in their power to slow down LRV operations.
I wonder if they are spying on their operators on this line through their vehicle tracking system and supervisors, like they are on streetcar lines to ensure that operators obey all their idiotic SOP's (ie: crawl at 10km/hr at signalized intersections, crawl through special trackwork, crawl under rail underpasses, etc.).
Islington Express Bus
Active Member
From the CBC article Reece posted:
So hopefully we do see times creep up.
So hopefully we do see times creep up.