[goodcitywhenfinished]

Well this hasn’t been a disaster of an opening day at all! /s

Incredibly embarrassing piece of infrastructure. I’m sorry but what are we even doing here????

This thing feels slower than the goddamn 501

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Wow, Line 6 in operation looks pathetic. I doubt they'll speed it up without sustained public outcry.

Just to pick on this last point of public perception, on both of my trips today, you could hear many conversations around the train about how slow it felt. This is certainly going to be something picked up by the news media this week, if not become the main talking point.

 

[Obsidian]

Just to pick on this last point of public perception, on both of my trips today, you could hear many conversations around the train about how slow it felt. This is certainly going to be something picked up by the news media this week, if not become the main talking point.

Also on social media everyone is complaining how slow it is. Hopefully this will lead to TSP being fully implemented on all LRT and streetcar lines.

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Wow, Line 6 in operation looks pathetic. I doubt they'll speed it up without sustained public outcry.

We have had public outcry over streetcar speeds for decades now and it has led to nothing.

City hall doesn’t care and Transportation Services is entirely controlled by yellowbelters that will do everything in their power to maintain the flow of single occupancy vehicles.

 

[mikey7767]

We have had public outcry over streetcar speeds for decades now and it has led to nothing.

City hall doesn’t care and Transportation Services is entirely controlled by yellowbelters that will do everything in their power to maintain the flow of single occupancy vehicles.

Bingo! That's why it's a good thing Transit City was never built in it's entirety! We would have had more of the same. It would just be Transit In Name Only.

 

[drum118]

Dec 7
Who was in the lineup at 4:30 am today to make sure they would be the first car to Humber? Staff were surprised to see people lining up then. '

At 6:00 am, the lineup was almost to Tangiers Rd and by 7:00 am, it was going down it and wrapping back toward the station on the southside of the buildings. Had no plans to join the line as I was going to shoot at the portal area. Seven other people join me there to do the same thing.

I joined the line at 8:30 am and was on the LRT platform 15 minutes later. Based on the size of the crowd, I decided to catch the next car with a 75% chance of getting a seat. Got a seat with about 75% full of riders when we departed.

Came close twice, hitting the clueless drivers making an illegal left turn on the road as we started to enter the intersection.

We pick up a few riders as well, dropping off a few.

As expected, the ride was the slow boat to China to the point we sat for 5 minutes at a station,

Come on TTC, what is that paper transfer doing at Humber as well a fare box?? There are none at any of the stations between Humber and Finch. Help a few people buy tickets and Presto cards, and it can be done using cash.

I took a look at the Humber Station before heading back to Finch. The average speed was 14km with the highest speed at 46km in two spots. Travel time on the return trip was 56 minutes. We left Humber about 50% full and a full load when we hit the Finch station. The Jane stop had more riders going east than west seen from the LRV, as well as driving by them heading to the 400.

One thing that stands out for my trips is the roller coaster ride that seems to slow the speed down, regardless it was snowing at the time. Seen this in the past on good weather days.

The next vehicle system wasn't working as there was no set schedule with eastbound LRVs sitting at more than 6 stops in a row. I don't know if all 18 LRVs were online or not, but there were over 8 LRVs in the carhouse as well as the yard. One turn east from the yard, and did not catch the car number, but shot 6512 as it departed the yard and turned eastbound. Did saw an eastbound leave the line as I was heading toward the 400.

The traffic light at York Gate is a major problem as it takes too long to make the change. Moreso, when the LRVs turn onto the street or off it. The first LRV I saw leaving York Gate to go east had a bar signal to make the turn with all the lights being red. The same thing happens when the LRV is eastbound, and there must be a trip switch to change the lights after it clears the intersection.

Traffic lights are a major problem for the full length of the ROW that you need to stop at major of them after you get a green. It has been this way for years, from my experience.

 

[APTA-2048]

TSP is frankly not even the top of this line's concerns. The train simply shouldn't be crawling at 20km/h between stations (not at intersections), and it especially shouldn't be running at 10km/h in the curved tunnel under H27/Finch. The operations here are just beyond inexcusable for a finished product running revenue service.

This needs to be part of the reporting on this line. Operational practices like this that are practically unheard of anywhere else.

 

[hw621]

It’s definitely not just TSP problem. This thing crawls in its right of way between lights like one big slow zone. Honestly what is the point of raising the speed limit to 60 if it runs at 22…

See what we said about realistic expectations of the line?

 

[GameOnBrad]

That way I always check if an LRT, or even a bus, I'm on is going to slow is to look out the window at the cars. If the cars are passing the LRT/Bus, it's going too slow.

 

[christiesplits]

Just to pick on this last point of public perception, on both of my trips today, you could hear many conversations around the train about how slow it felt. This is certainly going to be something picked up by the news media this week, if not become the main talking point.

Somewhat reassuring, via Chris Drew on X:

"Elected leaders I spoke with today agree with the need for more speed."

 

[ARG1]

That way I always check if an LRT, or even a bus, I'm on is going to slow is to look out the window at the cars. If the cars are passing the LRT/Bus, it's going too slow.

Honestly I wouldn't necessarily use that as a measure, especially in Toronto. The reality is that most people drive above speed limit in this city, so even in the most optimal conditions cars will be faster simply because trams/busses have to obey posted speed limit. This could be rectified by having a higher speed limit on transit, but I feel like Transportation Services might genuinely develop an aneurysm over such a thought.

 

[APTA-2048]

That way I always check if an LRT, or even a bus, I'm on is going to slow is to look out the window at the cars. If the cars are passing the LRT/Bus, it's going too slow.

It’s funny I read this being passed by cars on Allen Road on the Spadina line. Poor oversight and management is really killing the TTC. Also I’d like to point out, we used to fly by cars on the Queensway not even a decade ago. This is a problem absolutely of the TTC and City’s own making.

 

[Steve X]

The fastest section is between Rowntree Mills and Mount Olive Station reaching close to 60 km/h. All the other sections are max 40 and crawling.

 

[Adjei]

This line is the death kneel for LRT in this city. With such crap speeds the public will turn against LRT in this form and I don’t see any more being built. We might as well just build BRT and save billions.

 

[hw621]

This line is the death kneel for LRT in this city. With such crap speeds the public will turn against LRT in this form and I don’t see any more being built. We might as well just build BRT and save billions.

I am not sure about the part of "saving billions" lol