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cplchanb said:
Non TSP and running at the same speeds as the downtown streetcars a modern thing?!
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The interurbans didn't run at slow speeds at all, and the downtown streetcars used to nip along quite a bit faster (when traffic permitted) before they were neutered in the name of safety.

And a lack of TSP, though a problem, can't be the only factor. Why can't the policy in between lights be full power and full braking? Apart, of course, from institutional paranoia.
 
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FW36 said:
I rode the LRT from Humber college to Finch West station and it took 50 minutes. On the way there we were passed by a 36 bus. The ride back from Finch West Station to Humber College was faster at 35 minutes, but we were also passed by a 36 bus.

I think it is very clear that the LRT needs to be given priority because on average we were stuck behind red lights for about 1-2 minutes each light. If the LRT was given priority it could have been a lot faster. I'm hopeful for the line, it's a big improvement. With some smart changes I think it can be efficient.
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I agree very much your last point. It's pretty clear this line is being kneecapped by the City's and TTC's own decisions.
 
I'm hearing reports that the transfer lights on the TR were disabled for all lines, I guess to be consistent with the lack of lights on Lines 5/6.

Or maybe it was broken.
 
Someone on reddit claimed 31 minutes or something around there from Humber to Finch west. Lot of potential if they can get the headway somewhat consistent
FW36 said:
I rode the LRT from Humber college to Finch West station and it took 50 minutes. On the way there we were passed by a 36 bus. The ride back from Finch West Station to Humber College was faster at 35 minutes, but we were also passed by a 36 bus.

I think it is very clear that the LRT needs to be given priority because on average we were stuck behind red lights for about 1-2 minutes each light. If the LRT was given priority it could have been a lot faster. I'm hopeful for the line, it's a big improvement. With some smart changes I think it can be efficient.
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FW36 said:
I rode the LRT from Humber college to Finch West station and it took 50 minutes. On the way there we were passed by a 36 bus. The ride back from Finch West Station to Humber College was faster at 35 minutes, but we were also passed by a 36 bus.

I think it is very clear that the LRT needs to be given priority because on average we were stuck behind red lights for about 1-2 minutes each light. If the LRT was given priority it could have been a lot faster. I'm hopeful for the line, it's a big improvement. With some smart changes I think it can be efficient.
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"Smart" and the "TTC" usually don't show up in the same sentence...
 
KhalilHeron said:
Someone on reddit claimed 31 minutes or something around there from Humber to Finch west. Lot of potential if they can get the headway somewhat consistent
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Get on the Line 6 Finch West today and tell me what you see, the tram is crawling and not accelerating to its top speed of 60 km/h and stopping at red lights for ~8-10 minutes out of every one way trip. Not only that, the trip times are not even consistent. Although I did not time my trips.

FW36 said:
I rode the LRT from Humber college to Finch West station and it took 50 minutes. On the way there we were passed by a 36 bus. The ride back from Finch West Station to Humber College was faster at 35 minutes, but we were also passed by a 36 bus.

I think it is very clear that the LRT needs to be given priority because on average we were stuck behind red lights for about 1-2 minutes each light. If the LRT was given priority it could have been a lot faster. I'm hopeful for the line, it's a big improvement. With some smart changes I think it can be efficient.
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FW36 please tell me that's a typo, and you meant to say 45 minutes back from Finch West to Humber College. If 35 minutes and 50 minutes were the actual trip times, then this 15 difference is highly concerning. As was expected, the lack of strong signal priority is leading to inconsistent trip times. Absolute clownery from the TTC and the City.

Maybe some can clarify as to who is to blame and to what degree they are responsible for this ****show: Metrolinx, mayor, city council, and/or the TTC Board. In practice, "conditional" signal priority might as well be no signal priority.
urbanclient said:
We get weak signal priority at best in Toronto on the streetcars (and very rarely buses). The city likes to call it "unconditional", but "unconditional" and weak for the streetcars is clearly not enough, so I hate to see how bad "conditional" is for Line 5 and 6.

"All of the City's current TSP locations are 'unconditional' in their operation. [...] For these reasons, and in consultation with the City and TTC the Metrolinx consortia are implementing Conditional TSP on Line 5 Eglinton and Line 6 Finch West."
TSP Toronto source: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/cc/bgrd/backgroundfile-254795.pdf
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In another conversation, someone had mentioned that starting from Finch to Humber College, the duration of the ride was between 49 to 53 minutes total.
 
urbanclient said:
Get on the Line 6 Finch West today and tell me what you see, the tram is crawling and not accelerating to its top speed of 60 km/h and stopping at red lights for ~8-10 minutes out of every one way trip. Not only that, the trip times are not even consistent. Although I did not time my trips.


FW36 please tell me that's a typo, and you meant to say 45 minutes back from Finch West to Humber College. If 35 minutes and 50 minutes were the actual trip times, then this 15 difference is highly concerning. As was expected, the lack of strong signal priority is leading to inconsistent trip times. Absolute clownery from the TTC and the City.

Maybe some can clarify as to who is to blame and to what degree they are responsible for this ****show: Metrolinx, mayor, city council, and/or the TTC Board. In practice, "conditional" signal priority might as well be no signal priority.
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No typo but the train was packed from Humber College to Finch West Station with lots of people getting on and off at every stations. The train coming back was a lot more emptier and few people getting on and off.
 
eglinton1661 said:
Also, the next train displays seem to be entirely not working?
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They were working earlier, apparently. But yes, they have been down most of the morning!

I heard one of the LRVs had a mechanical issue as well.

I was on the third or fourth train out of Finch West. I think the train ahead of us had a bunch of foamers railfans jumping out to get the commemorative coins and jumping back on. We got stuck behind them and we timed the trip at 57 minutes. The return journey seemed faster. Still not a fast transit line by any means. I did not enjoy stopping at every red light, then stopping again at every far side station. Or crawling through an empty right of way for no apparent reason.
 
I timed my trips.

Finch West to Humber College: 56 minutes
Humber College to Finch West: 54 minutes

Was pretty consistent. My friend who was a frequent taker of the Finch Bus said it was typically 45 minutes. The Finch Bus drivers used to zip down the road outside peak rush hour, which is not seeming like the behaviour of these trains.
 
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