Gus Haynes
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Slow clap for Sayid.
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Slow clap for Sayid.
constance_chlore
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I've seen a ton of Estabrooks signs and a good number of Olszewski signs. I have not seen a single Ahmed sign anywhere on private property—which makes sense, since I like in Wîhkwêntôwin—but there are five in and around Grant Notley Park.
Gronk!
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I see the exact same thing in Rossdale.
I'm still on the fence. I like Trisha but she's with the wrong party. I'm unsure about Eleanor but she's with the party I want to vote for.
MacLac
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He needs to fire the guy who told him that “ghosting town halls, debates and over all any publicly is (good) idea.”
BASE
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Indeed, I really despise this strategy and it will likely cost Mr. Ahmed this riding. CPC campaign group needs to allow a bit more autonomy at the local level and put some trust in their individual candidates but they have the experience and insights that must have a different calculation.
MacLac
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constance_chlore
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The candidate forum in Edmonton Centre was certainly colorful. Estabrooks and Olszewski were both fine but gave quite smooth, rehearsed answers. There were three far-left-ish candidates from the Revolution Party (Gregory Bell), Communist Party (perennial candidate Naomi Rankin), and Marxist-Leninist party (Merryn Edwards). And then there was the guy from the Christian Heritage Party (David John Bohonos) and the true wild card, independent Ronald Billingsley, who was reprimanded at least twice: for drinking during the debate and for interrupting other candidates. He made a point about talking about all the times he was detained, mentioned that he just got out of a psych ward in February, and also repeatedly brought up issues related to divorce and child support without any prompting. His platform was also eccentric, to say the least, although I've wiped most of it from my mind.
It was quite well-attended. Vivian Manasc was sitting right behind me and Michael Phair was a few seats away.
It was quite well-attended. Vivian Manasc was sitting right behind me and Michael Phair was a few seats away.
fjordgard
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Did attended this give any indication of which way (Estabrooks vs Olszewski) progressive worried about vote splitting are leaning? Or should lean?
constance_chlore
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Trisha had more people in support at the event and got the bigger cheers. She also has more signs in the neighborhood. But I can't say if that will translate into votes—having a strong base of engaged volunteers is important, but it's not the only thing that counts.
If I had to make a guess, I would say that the strategic vote would be NDP. I'm biased, because I support Trisha and have already voted for her. I think there's enough uncertainty that people should perhaps just vote for the candidate they agree with more without worrying about strategy. I'd also say that there seemed to be a tacit recognition between Trisha and Eleanor that the real enemy was the one that wasn't in the room.
I like Trisha on a personal level, but neither major candidate really wowed me on the stage. In my opinion, the most eloquent speaker there was Naomi Rankin.
If I had to make a guess, I would say that the strategic vote would be NDP. I'm biased, because I support Trisha and have already voted for her. I think there's enough uncertainty that people should perhaps just vote for the candidate they agree with more without worrying about strategy. I'd also say that there seemed to be a tacit recognition between Trisha and Eleanor that the real enemy was the one that wasn't in the room.
I like Trisha on a personal level, but neither major candidate really wowed me on the stage. In my opinion, the most eloquent speaker there was Naomi Rankin.
TAS
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For what it's worth, Edmonton Centre according to 338 Canada:
Is a vote for the NDP helping CPC?
Is a vote for the NDP helping CPC?
ChazYEG
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David A
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My sense is that 338 may over estimate the Liberals a bit and under estimate the NDP a bit and the CPC numbers are close to actual.
I feel it will be a closer race between the Liberals and the CPC, but the Liberals will probably come out ahead unless there is too much vote splitting with the NDP.
I feel it will be a closer race between the Liberals and the CPC, but the Liberals will probably come out ahead unless there is too much vote splitting with the NDP.
BASE
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I'm actually not sure there is reason to vote "strategically" or you might get burned in this race. I suspect given the situation of Liberals having national momentum, NDP having a recognized candidate, & CPC having neither that it is probably going to be Liberal/NDP that finish in some order of 1st and 2nd and Conservative candidate in 3rd.
constance_chlore
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I don't trust 338 Canada to get this right. As far as I know we still don't have riding-level polls, so they're making predictions based on past elections and national polls. This means that it really can't account for factors like exceptional candidates and other aspects of local context (in this case, the fact that the current Liberal MP is plagued with scandals). Not to fault them in a personal way, but I actually think that given the lack of information, sites like 338 and those that make strategic voting recommendations based on 338 have a negative influence on politics for this reason.