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constance_chlore said:
Walking around Highlands last night, there were tons of Blake Desjarlais signs and one (1) very lonely Diotte sign.
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Highlands yes, but if you walk around Rundle or Glengarry you will see alot more Conservative signs. Diotte's constituency in this riding has long rested with the more low/middle income seniors in the old suburbs, not the wealthy professionals in Highlands. Same way Caterina ended up representing part of this area for so long. I think we are in for a close race.
 
SarcasticMarmot said:
Highlands yes, but if you walk around Rundle or Glengarry you will see alot more Conservative signs. Diotte's constituency in this riding has long rested with the more low/middle income seniors in the old suburbs, not the wealthy professionals in Highlands. Same way Caterina ended up representing part of this area for so long. I think we are in for a close race.
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We need to bring up Kerry Diotte's association with Rebel News. Maybe that will ensure he never wins a political seat ever again.

 
The NDP does seem to be doing well with signs, particularly in certain areas. So if it is a very close race there, which polling seem to indicate, then that level of organization is likely quite helpful and may make the difference.
 
Trisha Estabrooks has a wide edge on lawn signs in my neck of the woods (Westmount/Inglewood). This is not a very Conservative-friendly part of Edmonton Centre though.
 
David A said:
The NDP does seem to be doing well with signs, particularly in certain areas. So if it is a very close race there, which polling seem to indicate, then that level of organization is likely quite helpful and may make the difference.
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I would speculate that this is great news for the Conservatives. It means that despite the low national support for the NDP, we'll have a Carney-Singh split vote in the city.
 
policyenthusiast said:
In unintentionally hilarious news:

BlackRock CEO advocates for democratization of markets​

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BlackRock Inc. chief executive and chairman Larry Fink said “protectionism has returned with force,” a development he said stems from a wealth divide. He advocates giving more investors access to private markets as a step toward “democratize” markets.
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Now if we could only democratize politics, particularly in the US where the oligarchy generally buy elections.
 
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Maybe we should take names and parties off of ballots and instead list election platforms and their cost. The platform with the most votes could then simply be provided to the bureaucracy as their mandate to execute over the next four years.
 
David A said:
The NDP does seem to be doing well with signs, particularly in certain areas. So if it is a very close race there, which polling seem to indicate, then that level of organization is likely quite helpful and may make the difference.
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Yeah, this sort of thing is (I think) important for helping to solve a coordination problem. Especially in Centre, with no incumbent, people are trying to feel out whether it would be more strategic to vote Liberal or NDP, and Trisha has had better ground game than her Liberal opponent.

There is obviously a strong presumption that the Liberals will do well and the NDP poorly across Canada, but I don't think that presumption is justified in Edmonton's three central ridings, mostly just because of well-liked (in 2/3 cases incumbent) candidates with good ground game. The framing that voting for the NDP in those ridings is splitting the vote 'away from' the Liberals presumes that the Liberals are guaranteed to perform better, which I don't think is true in those three ridings—even if it probably is in most of the rest of the city. Like, it's fine to vote Liberal in Griesbach if you like the candidate or the party, but I think it would be extraordinarily stupid to do so as a form of strategic voting.
 
kcantor said:
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Maybe we should take names and parties off of ballots and instead list election platforms and their cost. The platform with the most votes could then simply be provided to the bureaucracy as their mandate to execute over the next four years.
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Fitting 4 years of democratic proceedings onto one ballot will have each slip looking like a Walgreens receipt.
 
SarcasticMarmot said:
Highlands yes, but if you walk around Rundle or Glengarry you will see alot more Conservative signs. Diotte's constituency in this riding has long rested with the more low/middle income seniors in the old suburbs, not the wealthy professionals in Highlands. Same way Caterina ended up representing part of this area for so long. I think we are in for a close race.
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I waa bike riding through Glengarry and Evansdale yesterday, and I noticed more conservative signs, but there were a fair number of NDP signs too. In Highlands and Montrose it's definitely more NDP than Conservative. I can't speak for Rundle or Beverly though, haven't been down that way in a while
 
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I am a bit fascinated by the push around "strategic voting" this go around. I get there is always discussions for it but interesting to expect NDP voters to coalesce around Liberal candidates this go around when Carney has moved the Liberals more to the center of the spectrum.

Although my view is Liberals are campaigning on being everything to everyone right now in saying they will keep and grow all programs, have gov't build housing, cutting carbon tax/other taxes. Maybe this is the obvious observation as to why they have been able to gain a lot of NDP supporters and some CPC supporters but I suspect if strategic voting occurs there could be a lot of buyers remorse regarding how the reality ends up comparing to the campaign commitments.

Will be fascinating to see how things look once costed platforms are released.
 
constance_chlore said:
Yeah, this sort of thing is (I think) important for helping to solve a coordination problem. Especially in Centre, with no incumbent, people are trying to feel out whether it would be more strategic to vote Liberal or NDP, and Trisha has had better ground game than her Liberal opponent.

There is obviously a strong presumption that the Liberals will do well and the NDP poorly across Canada, but I don't think that presumption is justified in Edmonton's three central ridings, mostly just because of well-liked (in 2/3 cases incumbent) candidates with good ground game. The framing that voting for the NDP in those ridings is splitting the vote 'away from' the Liberals presumes that the Liberals are guaranteed to perform better, which I don't think is true in those three ridings—even if it probably is in most of the rest of the city. Like, it's fine to vote Liberal in Griesbach if you like the candidate or the party, but I think it would be extraordinarily stupid to do so as a form of strategic voting.
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IMO probably the safest thing to do strategically would be to support the incumbent parties in each of these areas.

The last minute change in Edmonton Centre probably did delay some things like signs, but the Liberals do now have a candidate who is experienced and capable.
 
BASE said:
I am a bit fascinated by the push around "strategic voting" this go around. I get there is always discussions for it but interesting to expect NDP voters to coalesce around Liberal candidates this go around when Carney has moved the Liberals more to the center of the spectrum.
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I don't know if the expectation is that the Liberals are the strategic choice all the time. The Trudeaumania Liberal surge in 2015 is likely what allowed Diotte to beat Janis Irwin in Greisbach, despite Irwin working the hardest I have ever seen a candidate work. In Edmonton it is really tricky to identify who the non-conservative strategic vote would most logically rest with, it varies wildly riding by riding depending on the candidates and local history. Edmonton Centre will be fascinating as historically the Liberals have been the more strategic choice but the NDP clearly have a more influential candidate. For those left/centre we may be disappointed how many Conservatives win in the heart of Edmonton.

Historically, this was a problem for the left provincially as well in Edmonton until the surprise NDP victory in 2015 coalesced support around one party.
 
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