[yeggator]

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This is Edmonton… have you forgotten that the sun doesn’t rise in December until after 7:00 am and it sets before 6:00 pm?

More like after 9 am. I got a new job in a place with no windows, and I’m dreading spending consecutive months without a single glimpse of the Sun.

 

[roe_]

Those aren’t equivalent climates at all. But sure.

We have gravel paths in the river valley and gravel alleys all over the city.

They become treacherous in winter. A great example is Emily Murphy park has a gravel section connecting to kinsmen. They have a permanent gate because they have to close that section of trail so often as it becomes dangerousView attachment 672407View attachment 672408View attachment 672409

Pave the whole park then. But this seems like the classic Edmonton approach that we can't learn anything from anywhere else "because its different here".

 

[thommyjo]

Pave the whole park then. But this seems like the classic Edmonton approach that we can't learn anything from anywhere else "because its different here".

Good strawman lol. Pave the whole park…

Can’t learn from elsewhere? Why would we look to Berlin who has no snow pack and rarely an entire week under -5 all winter. Silly comparison.

What’s the advantage of gravel for these? Higher maintenance burden, less accessible for mobility challenges, harder to clear snow/ice from, aesthetically I wouldn’t say it’s much nicer, can’t handle heavier equipment as well if it needs to be brought in.

 

[Stevey_G]

Pave the whole park then. But this seems like the classic Edmonton approach that we can't learn anything from anywhere else "because its different here".

Downtown COULD use a new large parking lot.

 

[Out of Towner]

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This is Edmonton… have you forgotten that the sun doesn’t rise in December until after 7:00 am and it sets before 6:00 pm?

So exactly what activity will people do at Warehouse Park after dark - regardless the month of the year. Nobody sits at a park after dark and nobody can reasonable say that the Northern Lights feature will be a drawing card on an ongoing basis by itself. So what is the thought process behind the feature when its best and only use is at the times of day when nobody is at the park?

 

[yeggator]

I think it would have been better to replace the concrete with something more natural (and likely cheaper). Lots of very nice parks in Europe and New York have gravel pathways that are far more natural, easier to maintain and improve drainage.

This park got built to get rid of some eyesore gravel parking lots and now you want to bring the gravel back?

 

[thommyjo]

So exactly what activity will people do at Warehouse Park after dark - regardless the month of the year. Nobody sits at a park after dark and nobody can reasonable say that the Northern Lights feature will be a drawing card on an ongoing basis by itself. So what is the thought process behind the feature when its best and only use is at the times of day when nobody is at the park?

Art for thousands of apartments and thousands of office workers.

 

[David A]

I am good with the art and more light when it is darker is probably a good thing overall, but if feel the scale of it in relation to the size of the space is excessive.

The city sure loves concrete in what are supposed to be park spaces. I really wish they followed the saying of less is more rather than more is better.

 

[Out of Towner]

I am good with the art and more light when it is darker is probably a good thing overall, but if feel the scale of it in relation to the size of the space is excessive.

The city sure loves concrete in what are supposed to be park spaces. I really wish they followed the saying of less is more rather than more is better.

I suspect that the Northern Lights are meant to be art but we're talking about turning lights on when the majority of people won't be there. Few people go to parks at night because there's nothing to do at a park at night. Only thing that I can think of using the lights for is to compliment ice sculptures at night - which would likely look pretty good but doesn't Borden Park already do an ice sculpture festival? My guess is that it's what's behind the fire pits as well. People will go to see some ice sculptures and then light fires in the pits to warm up.

 

[roe_]

Good strawman lol. Pave the whole park…

Can’t learn from elsewhere? Why would we look to Berlin who has no snow pack and rarely an entire week under -5 all winter. Silly comparison.

What’s the advantage of gravel for these? Higher maintenance burden, less accessible for mobility challenges, harder to clear snow/ice from, aesthetically I wouldn’t say it’s much nicer, can’t handle heavier equipment as well if it needs to be brought in.

Not really interested in mercury jockeying with you about winter weather. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think you are wrong. Concrete is very expensive, it is susceptible to the freeze thaw cycle in Edmonton and, most importantly, I don't think the amount being used in the Warehouse Park fits into a naturalized setting. I mean, even Epcor is providing grants for homeowners in Edmonton to remove concrete driveways because they are bad for drainage.

Don't be so quick to reject ideas from elsewhere. Sometime other places really do know what they are doing.

 

[IanO]

 

[fromyeg]

The rain today is good for all the freshly planted trees.

 

[dkazzed]

Is it just me or is this project progressing at an unusually fast pace?

 

[Glenco]

PCL pace.

 

[David A]

Is it just me or is this project progressing at an unusually fast pace?

This and the other parks nearby also. I suspect the calendar is a big part of the motivation, we are in mid August so it needs to move along fairly quickly now.

However, it is good to see it happening.