TAS
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More brick pavers could have been option for more of the concrete - generally also less prone to cracking from freeze-thaw cycles and ground movement and can look better.
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thommyjo
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Warehouse Park - CCxA has a representation of what the fire pit feature will look like (there are 3 of them). The picture posted by thommyjo shows their location Right in front of the pavilion. Their bases are presently under construction. No information on whether the city will supply wood or if they're "bring your own wood" fire pits..
IanO
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My guess is gas for anything permanent and complimented by occasional wood burning additions given the required oversight/firewatch like in Churchill for past events.
roe_
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Probably no need to mention how messy the fire pit area would get if park visitors are allowed to start fires. Nobody is going to put out their fire and clean up their ashes. They'll be left there for a maintenance crew to clean up and over time the charcoal and soot will be all over the place. Firewood contaminated with insects also presents the danger of introducing diseases into downtown's trees. It would be one hell of a deal if the elm trees started dying off because of somebody's negligence. Gas is the better option but it's not what the representations show and a water feature was rejected by "somebody" because of its cost. Well, the installation of gas lines isn't done for free and gas isn't cheaper than water.
Stevey_G
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Yeah there’s a number of qualified (academic or career) people on here that weren’t just yelling at clouds regarding planning and execution. This space will be a solid 5 out of 10 for a park at an 8 out of 10 price tag and a once in a city’s lifetime opportunity.
Normally blocky square spaces better incorporate linear elements like rectangular ponds, straight shot formwork for concrete, and a modest of amount of swooping elements like arches, playgrounds, etc.
The way it is laid out right now is literally the most expensive way to do sidewalks and is an insanely inefficient use of square space. That’s why it feels so small.
Normally blocky square spaces better incorporate linear elements like rectangular ponds, straight shot formwork for concrete, and a modest of amount of swooping elements like arches, playgrounds, etc.
The way it is laid out right now is literally the most expensive way to do sidewalks and is an insanely inefficient use of square space. That’s why it feels so small.
trevorhayden
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When all these downtown projects finish, including LRT 3 to 4 years from now, downtown will be such a destination!
IanO
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My fav fountain in Canada reminded me today how much of a miss this was for our new park. It was a people magnet and softened the city sounds.
Out of Towner
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Here's to hoping but given the choice, I'd take that fountain over 3 fire pits any day.
Stevey_G
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My confidence in design implementation was crushed when they said the reason for no fountain was that there is not enough space for an underground vault, pumps, and underground utilities required to run a fountain. Which is basically a single phase teck cable run and a few pumps smaller than what a home has for a sump.
That right then implied an rigidity and unwillingness to amend the design to better suit the space. And when it comes to landscape architecture, trying to force a vision rather than form fitting it always ends up being an expensive and underwhelming result. Gotta design the space from a trailer ON the space.
Not enough space...lol. It's 1.4 hectares!
thommyjo
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Those aren’t equivalent climates at all. But sure.
We have gravel paths in the river valley and gravel alleys all over the city.
They become treacherous in winter. A great example is Emily Murphy park has a gravel section connecting to kinsmen. They have a permanent gate because they have to close that section of trail so often as it becomes dangerous
thommyjo
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The real purpose of Warehouse Park is becoming more clear. It isn't being built for people to visit for some R&R in their time off. It's being built to host festivals. Festivals that require permits and oversight from the folks down at City Hall. Permits just like the kind that the Vancouver Park Board didn't issue to the event organizers of the African Descent Festival at English Bay in Vancouver this weekend (for better or for worse). The power of the permit.
The Northern Lights feature at Warehouse Park was an interesting idea because most people don't visit a park at night. (And the people who do visit parks at night are often up to no good.) So it makes one wonder if the Northern Lights is a feature for people visiting the park at night or will the lights be turned on during the day too.
The Northern Lights feature at Warehouse Park was an interesting idea because most people don't visit a park at night. (And the people who do visit parks at night are often up to no good.) So it makes one wonder if the Northern Lights is a feature for people visiting the park at night or will the lights be turned on during the day too.
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kcantor
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This is Edmonton… have you forgotten that the sun doesn’t rise in December until after 7:00 am and it sets before 6:00 pm?
This is Edmonton… have you forgotten that the sun doesn’t rise in December until after 7:00 am and it sets before 6:00 pm?