Bordercollie
Senior Member
The contractor probably gets penalized for on time performance hence why the padded schedules with buses stopped at extended times at terminals and along the route to use up time.
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Northern Light
Superstar
The reason doesn't matter (at this stage); and you're guessing.
Don't guess, complain to York Region's Chair and let them inquire about whether/why some routes have excess padding.
futurebound
New Member
Walter (@winghongchan@social.opendesktop.org)
Attached: 1 image @reece@canadiancivil.com I did the next best thing: hiding it from my home screen and only getting notified when YRT posts. YRT, the transit agency techy enough to use AI cameras to detect maintenance issues at bus stops, can’t seem to use GTFS to communicate cancellations...
social.opendesktop.org
Speaking of complaining to Regional Council, YRT doesn't have GTFS communication for cancelled buses. Writing an email or two to get the ball rolling might be worthwhile.
There are also plenty of other low hanging fruits worth complaining about. They should prioritize VIVA with active TSP and let buses go through before left turning traffic.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
YRT will be getting 80 long range battery electric buses from Nova Bus. Deliveries are expected to begin in 2026.
novabus.com
Nova Bus Awarded a Contract for a Supply of 80 LFSe+ Electrical Buses to the Regional Municipality of York - Novabus
Montréal, January 21, 2024 – Nova Bus, a Canadian leader in electric bus manufacturing and a member of Volvo Group, is pleased to announce that it has been awarded a contract for the production of 80 fully electric LFSe+ urban buses for The Regional Municipality of York. Deliveries are scheduled...
6ixGod
Active Member
I really can't understand why the #2 last bus from finch is ~23:16. Considering many events finish around 10 to 11pm it takes a good 45 minutes to reach Finch station.
Would really love to see YRT add in one more bus departing Finch at around midnight. It would be a lifesaver, compared to taking the 53 Steeles and then having to walk 10 to 20 mins north.
Would really love to see YRT add in one more bus departing Finch at around midnight. It would be a lifesaver, compared to taking the 53 Steeles and then having to walk 10 to 20 mins north.
chrisw
Active Member
Bordercollie
Senior Member
How about 98/99 run 24 hours? I would think that there is demand.
Sandpit
Active Member
Don’t forget the 20! And ideally the 1 and 77 if the budget allows for it.
Hope it at least gets a mention in this year’s Service Initiatives, especially since I submitted a comment (and got around 30 likes IIRC).
KawarthaTransiteer
New Member
The 2025 transit initiatives plan is now available through the YRT site. It's quite confusing to go through the plan because it includes a lot of changes that already happened (mainly from the January 5 batch of changes). For example, changes such as extending the 7 to Humber College on weekends, increasing afternoon service on the 107B, restructuring the 409, and introducing On-Request North-Central are still included.
To be fair, I believe the report was done last month so those changes still would've been in the future, however it does include the changes to On-Request King, and On-Request Stouffville that happened back in June. Though it is proposed that they "explore increasing service hours and operating days" for those services.
Here are some of the major proposals in the plan. If I recall correctly, nearly all of them were already proposed back in May:
To be fair, I believe the report was done last month so those changes still would've been in the future, however it does include the changes to On-Request King, and On-Request Stouffville that happened back in June. Though it is proposed that they "explore increasing service hours and operating days" for those services.
Here are some of the major proposals in the plan. If I recall correctly, nearly all of them were already proposed back in May:
- Truncating service on route 4 to end at Major Mackenzie West Terminal. A new route 6 will provide service west of the terminal instead, with service to the Nashville Heights neighbourhood. Service along Davos Road and Via Campanile would be discontinued.
- Removal of service south of Humber College to the Woodbine Centre on route 7.
- Rerouting route 87 to Maple GO station via Confederation Parkway and Peter Rupert Avenue.
- A merger of the 91 and 91A branches into a single branch.
- Extending On-Request Kleinberg-Nashville to new developments by Teston Road and Pine Valley Drive.
- The introduction of On-Request Vandorf, serving the communities of Vandorf, Preston Lake, and Bloomington GO, with connections to route 33.
- Changes to several school specials, many of which are in Aurora and Oak Ridges.
chrisw
Active Member
Interesting that the route performance indicators are from Feb 2024 before OneFare. It really shows how slow there process is for these transit initiatives.
One positive is that some 2026 Initiatives can get implemented by September 2025.
"The 2025 Transit Initiatives will cost about 33,000 annual service hours or $3 million in operating costs."
One positive is that some 2026 Initiatives can get implemented by September 2025.
"The 2025 Transit Initiatives will cost about 33,000 annual service hours or $3 million in operating costs."
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Sandpit
Active Member
Once again disappointed that overnight service does not get a single mention.
stevensontransit
Active Member
Why would YRT take over Markham road service from the TTC? With the one fare program, why dont YRT allow the TTC to operate any service into York Region?
stevensontransit
Active Member
agreed so what if transit riders in york needs to get to work for their overnight shift, getting to downtown union station or the airport to get their early morning depatures for out of town?
Northern Light
Superstar
The hours count is of note, many services across the GTA are budgeting for increases of 50,000+ hours this year, and York Region/YRT is already a service laggard.
They need to add at least 150,000 hours of service to get to a reasonable level. Which at their current pacing will take 5 more years minimum.
Northern Light
Superstar
I agree, but I can't emphasize enough the need for you to get your neighbours, and community groups to mobilize and to demand better.
I know its a pain, we all have limited free time.
But its necessary, the system will not change itself without outside pressure.
But its chicken and egg, with terrible service, YRT attracts relatively low ridership, and relying on a relatively small number of riders to complain to make things better isn't enough pressure.
People need to be reminded that better transit allows their car to go faster in traffic, helps their kids get to school/college/uni, or can be relied on when their car is in the shop.
If YRT got the benefit of just a 1% property tax increase in York Region it would be able to improve by leaps and bounds. (about 15M in revenue, which would be about a 1/3 increase in subsidy).