[nfitz]

Presumably they are staging the work so that some services can be provided by one or the other facilities, while the other is offline.

I know redundancy for transit might come as a surprise for people from Ottawa.

 

[cplchanb]

My wish just came true!!! My train just got switched to venture this morning

 

[roger1818]

Presumably they are staging the work so that some services can be provided by one or the other facilities, while the other is offline.

That would be my expectation.

I know redundancy for transit might come as a surprise for people from Ottawa.

Not everyone from Ottawa is a politician, unlike what the media may brain wash you into thinking. Funny how federal laws are blamed on the city of Ottawa, but provincial laws aren't blamed on the city of Toronto. Given hwo so many people on this forum use call actions by the federal government as coming from Ottawa, I suspect most people on this foruim have bought into this.

 

[Urban Sky]

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My wish just came true!!! My train just got switched to venture this morning

As long as you are aware that MTRL-TRTO are the most vulnerable to the speed restrictions imposed for Venture trains, due to the almost 500 km of tracks shared with CN…

 

[cplchanb]

As long as you are aware that MTRL-TRTO are the most vulnerable to the speed restrictions imposed for Venture trains, due to the almost 500 km of tracks shared with CN…

Well it's next June so hopefully itll be sorted by then

 

[Urban Sky]

Well it's next June so hopefully itll be sorted by then

I wish I knew of reasons to share your optimism…

 

[Urban Sky]

Some of the cycling changes ahead, as investigated by Tom Box:

As always, these are subject to further change by VIA, but my tentative findings are:

* Changes take effect February 3.

* More Montreal - Toronto Ventures. Until now that route has been almost all LRC. #60, 62, 69, 669 will be Venture every day, #61, 68 on certain days of the week. Toronto - Ottawa #50 and 52 also become Venture, so J trains #60/50 and 62/52 will be all-Venture.

* Ventures almost disappear from southwestern Ontario, except for one Toronto - Sarnia round trip a week on Sunday #87/Monday #84. (Sunday #76 also shows as Venture, but that day's #71 is HEP2. #71 must cycle to #76, so something's wrong here.)

* LRCs return to a few Montreal - Ottawa trains (Mon/Tue #31, Sat #633) on a route that has been all-Venture until now (though with LRCs sometimes subbing for bad-ordered Ventures). The LRCs only appear westward on Montreal - Ottawa. That's possible if they're doing a Montreal - Ottawa - Toronto - Montreal triangle, but I don't fully understand the equipment cycles. That's Doug Bardeau's department.

* More LRC and fewer HEP2 for Ottawa - Toronto. There will be just one HEP2 round trip a day on that route, on average. Most of the HEP2 runs will be in southwestern Ontario, where they appear on #71/76, 73/78, and 82/83.

Re: Equipment Rotation Change for Corridor on February 4th

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[Bordercollie]

Some of the cycling changes ahead, as investigated by Tom Box:

As always, these are subject to further change by VIA, but my tentative findings are:

* Changes take effect February 3.

* More Montreal - Toronto Ventures. Until now that route has been almost all LRC. #60, 62, 69, 669 will be Venture every day, #61, 68 on certain days of the week. Toronto - Ottawa #50 and 52 also become Venture, so J trains #60/50 and 62/52 will be all-Venture.

* Ventures almost disappear from southwestern Ontario, except for one Toronto - Sarnia round trip a week on Sunday #87/Monday #84. (Sunday #76 also shows as Venture, but that day's #71 is HEP2. #71 must cycle to #76, so something's wrong here.)

* LRCs return to a few Montreal - Ottawa trains (Mon/Tue #31, Sat #633) on a route that has been all-Venture until now (though with LRCs sometimes subbing for bad-ordered Ventures). The LRCs only appear westward on Montreal - Ottawa. That's possible if they're doing a Montreal - Ottawa - Toronto - Montreal triangle, but I don't fully understand the equipment cycles. That's Doug Bardeau's department.

* More LRC and fewer HEP2 for Ottawa - Toronto. There will be just one HEP2 round trip a day on that route, on average. Most of the HEP2 runs will be in southwestern Ontario, where they appear on #71/76, 73/78, and 82/83.

Re: Equipment Rotation Change for Corridor on February 4th

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Isn't that the worst place to put them?

 

[Urban Sky]

Isn't that the worst place to put them?

It’s certainly the worst route to put them, but they do the least damage on 60/62 and 69/669 don’t have to catch any connecting trains, so clearly some thought went into that by my former colleagues…

 

[Bordercollie]

It’s certainly the worst route to put them, but they do the least damage on 60/62 and 69/669 don’t have to catch any connecting trains, so clearly some thought went into that by my former colleagues…

So the delays will have the least impact?

It would make more sense to take mid coaches and put them on other trains to make them longer until the speed restriction is lifted.

 

[cplchanb]

It’s certainly the worst route to put them, but they do the least damage on 60/62 and 69/669 don’t have to catch any connecting trains, so clearly some thought went into that by my former colleagues…

On that note any updates on the court battle and what via will do in the long term? Extend the trains? More joint trains? Fight CN to the death?

 

[Urban Sky]

On that note any updates on the court battle and what via will do in the long term? Extend the trains? More joint trains? Fight CN to the death?

The only realistic outcomes are that the courts tell CN to stop the bullying or that VIA procures shunt enhancers…

 

[nfitz]

The only realistic outcomes are that the courts tell CN to stop the bullying or that VIA procures shunt enhancers…

Or CN backs down.

 

[Trackside_Treasure]

On that note any updates on the court battle and what via will do in the long term? Extend the trains? More joint trains? Fight CN to the death?

We are in a holding pattern right now. Next steps are CN motion to strike VIA's judicial review application on February 7. I think if that is not successful, and unless something else changes, all three parties involved (CN, VIA and the Attorney-General of Canada) have a February 25 court date.

I hate to presage what the outcome of this legal wrangling will be. CN and VIA legal teams both seem to think they have a very strong case, not surprisingly. I find it interesting that having seen many of the affidavits both sides are bringing forward, it is CN that has yet to prove a real, solid, applicable, Corridor-relevant case for the publishing of its Crossing Supplement on October 11 that started all this. There is absolutely nothing linked to a single-crossing 'smoking gun', reason for the October 11 date, and perhaps CN's report to Transport Canada, which is likely now in TC's hands, will provide something in this regard.

Real time updates here, and another blog post on materials submitted on CN's and VIA's behalf is currently in the works!

VIA and CN in Federal Court over CN-Imposed Speed Reductions

VIA Rail Canada made an application for judicial review under sections 18 and 18.1 of the Federal Courts Act, one month after CN imposed its...

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[andrewmaps]

What is the cost for a shunt enhancer for one locomotive? Would buying 32(?) of these be a more simple solution? How long would it take to install? I hate the idea of giving in to the CN bullies, but the speed restriction should be lifted asap. Maybe the court could decide that CN pays for them after the fact?