Bordercollie
Senior Member
So now we have rolling stock that is slower than what we had 40 years ago. Great
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Urban Sky
Senior Member
The rolling stock is actually faster, but the infrastructure is slower…So now we have rolling stock that is slower than what we had 40 years ago. Great
smallspy
Senior Member
It was. If the tilting was locked out on a single car, the train's speed was limited to the regular Passenger speed.
Once they removed tilting, they worked with CN to ensure that they could continue to operate at LRC speeds, although the limits were also reduced in some curves.
I know that this is a hard concept to grasp, but having a higher speed does not necessarily mean a faster overall time.So now we have rolling stock that is slower than what we had 40 years ago. Great
Dan
bearcat
Active Member
Yes, but in the context of the recent discussion on non-stop trains between Toronto and Montreal, I assume it would?
nfitz
Superstar
Given the new travel times are unchanged from the old ones, and are over 5-hours - about 75 minutes longer than VIA's historical minimum - it certainly hasn't!
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Trains 62 and 63 are right after trips that are converted to express. Via may be lengthening consists to accommodate the displaced passengers.
robmausser
Senior Member
I thought the Ventures got the LRC speed exception? Was I misinformed?
Or, are people just factoring the crossing gate slowdown/issue now.
Or, are people just factoring the crossing gate slowdown/issue now.
crs1026
Superstar
You are far too kind.
More like, CN was absolutely immovable about the scheduling and VIA had no choice but to cut the stops and harvest the dwell time in order to keep some semblance of a competitive service..... Montreal through passengers being the bigger revenue potential, and the local passengers being sacrificial lambs.
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reaperexpress
Senior Member
But if they're running 32-axle consists, the schedule should be achievable with the scheduled stops because there are no speed restrictions. Via says they expect the trains to arrive 30 to 40 minutes early, which is way beyond keeping up with the schedule.
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
New Transport Minister, same old case. With the fourth person in the post in a year, the hot potato has been passed yet again. This time from Chrystia Freeland to Steven MacKinnon. Having held off publication, this post gives more information on the process and its slow-moving status:
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Ministerial Order - Venturing into CN's Grade Crossing Records
THE CASE SO FAR VIA's application for judicial review of CN's crossing supplements was not granted. Issued on October 12, 2024 the supplemen...
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Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
Here's what VIA tells us: "Although the scheduled departure and arrival times have not been modified, actual arrival time could be 30 to 40 minutes earlier than the official scheduled arrival time indicated." I'm still trying to wrap my head around that statement! Sacrificing customer satisfaction to improve OTP? All for what? We're going to run on time for a change? Well, fewer stops and starts should definitely help. And instead of VIA just being an Ontario and Quebec thing to the rest of Canada, it's now a Toronto and Montreal thing to the rest of Ontario and Quebec. As predicted by me, Kingston was the first to object. (Sire, Sire the peasants are revolting! [Groucho voice]...They certainly are!)
VIA doesn't say Ventures will be used. It tells us: "Equipment for this pilot project will be selected to avoid CN crossing restrictions."
nfitz
Superstar
They just need to find equipment with enough axles. The engine has 24 - not many coaches needed!
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
Things are looking UP!!
lenaitch
Senior Member
UP #80 coal turbine A-B set had 25!
micheal_can
Senior Member
I am confused with this express train thing.
The timetable is the same. But the stations are cut out.
Are they going to run the shorter Siemens trains at the slow order speed, but not stop at the stations with the hopes that station stops would mean a time savings to match this? Cus, if they run the 32 axle stuff on the express, then they don't have the speed restrictions, and they don't need to worry about stopping for stations, which all should mean they would be faster than the timetable.
Alternatively, I was thinking they are doing this to showcase how many passengers would use Alto as a kind of proof of concept.
Either way,I look forward to seeing what this all means once the pilot is done.
The timetable is the same. But the stations are cut out.
Are they going to run the shorter Siemens trains at the slow order speed, but not stop at the stations with the hopes that station stops would mean a time savings to match this? Cus, if they run the 32 axle stuff on the express, then they don't have the speed restrictions, and they don't need to worry about stopping for stations, which all should mean they would be faster than the timetable.
Alternatively, I was thinking they are doing this to showcase how many passengers would use Alto as a kind of proof of concept.
Either way,I look forward to seeing what this all means once the pilot is done.