The monster intersections at-grade LRT creates really contradicts the supposed urban tight knit feel they're meant to provide. For instance many of the intersections along 111street on the original line are not pleasant to cross on foot. The new 104 avenue looks to be the same or worse than the previous 104 avenue. And that SPR/142street intersection shown above looks horrible.

I understand the desire for at-grade because grade separating is expensive or creates 'a barrier' but these aren't good alternatives. I'd prefer grade separating to extremely large intersections.
Crossing 51st ave and 111 street on foot is nasty
 
170 Street and 87 Avenue is also a busy intersection even with the LRT above ground. I wonder if 51 Avenue could be split up into two crossing halves at 111 Street.
 
Ohman said:
The monster intersections at-grade LRT creates really contradicts the supposed urban tight knit feel they're meant to provide. For instance many of the intersections along 111street on the original line are not pleasant to cross on foot. The new 104 avenue looks to be the same or worse than the previous 104 avenue. And that SPR/142street intersection shown above looks horrible.

I understand the desire for at-grade because grade separating is expensive or creates 'a barrier' but these aren't good alternatives. I'd prefer grade separating to extremely large intersections.
Crossing 51st ave and 111 street on foot is nasty
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I find the “size” less of a concern as 104ave was already wide and now the crossings have more midpoint pedestrian islands.

The bigger problem for urbanism and walkability is the insanely long light sequences these cause. Standing for 90secs to cross an intersection in the winter in a dense urban area is beyond stupid.
 
Light timing overall needs a comprehensive review for Downtown, 124st and Whyte as it is beyond me how the most vulnerable, ie. the pedestrian, is exposed for much longer than they should be, especially in winter.

Do 30 sec intervals and keep swapping direction. Keeps speeds down, flow up and moves people faster.
 
thommyjo said:
I find the “size” less of a concern as 104ave was already wide and now the crossings have more midpoint pedestrian islands.

The bigger problem for urbanism and walkability is the insanely long light sequences these cause. Standing for 90secs to cross an intersection in the winter in a dense urban area is beyond stupid.
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A huge issue with a lot of the Capital Line/111 St at-grade crossings is that you often need to cross 3 times to get from one side of the road to the other, which is ridiculous. I hope we have learned from that.
 
IanO said:
Light timing overall needs a comprehensive review for Downtown, 124st and Whyte as it is beyond me how the most vulnerable, ie. the pedestrian, is exposed for much longer than they should be, especially in winter.

Do 30 sec intervals and keep swapping direction. Keeps speeds down, flow up and moves people faster.
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I really noticed the difference as a pedestrian in Vancouver recently with the shorter intervals and it was so nice. Certainly a lot of their streets aren't as wide either.

We need to better prioritize pedestrians.
 
One question I have to ask, is it necessary to have a left-turn signal coming out of 114 Street onto 104 Avenue?
 
Still not seeing indoor access between WEM and the LRT.

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Well at least it's going to be a nice walk from the train to the mall in a nice tree-lined sidewalk with benches and grass area with flowers. It will especially be nice walking that pathway between the mall and the station all throughout the year when we can enjoy the beautiful year-round mild weather and sunlight. 🙄
 
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