What percentage of people in this area respect their own neighbourhood? There was a nearby adult video business that burnt down a few years ago.
 
What percentage of people in this area respect their own neighbourhood? There was a nearby adult video business that burnt down a few years ago.

Got to be difficult for residents here with so many issues going on simultaneously and snowballing and out of their control. The LRT work (which we do need to build) has certainly disproportionately negatively impacted this area that was already suffering.

I keep thinking of a community like McCauley as another even more extreme example (but not lrt related). Way too many shelters are located in McCauley and so you have people overdosed on the street, passed out, injured, and there's constant garbage and social disorder - too many residents and businesses in McCauley are subjected to issues beyond their ability to manage.
 
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surely you're not advocating arson against pawn shops, which like it or not are legitimate businesses, serve a certain sector and have been around for centuries.
Wouldn't surprise me that is what MacLac is advocating. He wanted people to "cancel" a local craft beer business because they were "anti-Edmonton" for having too many Calgary based beers on their menu. He wanted to "cancel" the "traitor" Wayne Gretzky and anything to do with him in Edmonton because the grown man Gretz apparently should not have the right to choose his friends or what political party he votes for. And he also said all UCP supporters are "Appalachia" type rural rednecks who "can't do basic math" and he made an incredibly misogynistic comment about Premier Smith because she was trying to do some PR for Alberta industries with Trump. MacLac the "progressive" doesn't come across like much of an open-minded and tolerant person which I thought "progressives" are supposed to be all about. And I'm sure there are many more cringe comments that I can't recount or did. not see.
 
I think MacLac speaks for a lot of people. He’s not anti-business, he’s fed up with the crime and social disorder. I’m sure a business license for a pawn shop or adult video store costs more because of the clientele they attract. For many years, Edmonton has fought a losing battle trying to improve its infrastructure and social situation.
 
Correcto Friendo! Another scumbag business in a zombie wasteland gone…..let’s add to the list….don’t celebrate pyro activities at all…..

But thank goodness that @thommyjo knows exactly what is being constructed and has is optimistic for that stretch
 
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Correcto Friendo! Another scumbag business in a zombie wasteland gone…..let’s add to the list….don’t celebrate pyro activities at all…..

But thank goodness that @thommyjo knows exactly what is being constructed and has is optimistic for that stretch
Not gunna lie, hard to stay optimistic about this stretch. It’s in brutal condition. Needs a lot of investment from private parties to turn it around. Same as quarters…no one wants to go first amongst the crime and disorder.

Jasper gates redevelopment might be what moves the needle enough, but that’s 10-15 years out likely.

I feel less safe on SPR than most of 102st-96st downtown tbh. Especially with the construction fencing making a lot of walkways narrow and with no “escape” if passing a sketchy guy. There are issues with weapons in that stretch daily. The bus centre is crazy bad. Gangs run that park.
 
I keep thinking of a community like McCauley as another even more extreme example (but not lrt related). Way too many shelters are located in McCauley and so you have people overdosed on the street, passed out, injured, and there's constant garbage and social disorder - too many residents and businesses in McCauley are subjected to issues beyond their ability to manage.
Agree with the concerns about concentration of struggling folks, but I think its important to point out that McCauley no longer has the social services concentration that are its public perception. Since the days of "Church Street" being the center of homelessness supports most of the agencies have left McCauley. The only shelter is the Women's Emergency Accommodation Centre in the flatiron building. Bissell Centre's support center (no drop in services anymore) and Radius Community Health Centre are the only services for street involved folks left in McCauley. There is still a concentration of subsidized housing but they are pretty much all long term supportive living and not transitional housing. Not sure what it means for the development of the area, but social services have been pretty effectively driven out, which is likely why we are seeing higher concentrations of folks in the river valley, on SPR, and north of downtown.
 

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