jhappy77
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Of course, there's the community of Twinhills next door. And I'm told the community after that will be called Everest Hypercliffs.Are there any hills in or near this community?
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Patrick.1980
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It’’s still suburban, sprawl, but I will say that the new suburbs of today are much better than the ones from 30 or 40 years ago.
Patrick.1980
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The DIC moving out of the area is long overdue, and splitting it up would be nice. Let’s pray they get this done.
outoftheice
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A cool place-making project opening today on 17th Ave SE. Nice to see this area getting some love. There's some incredible opportunity for mixed-use development along 17th, I'm genuinely surprised we haven't seen more proposals.
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Year-round outdoor skating rink opens along International Avenue
A Calgary community is celebrating the opening of a unique feature Friday.
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The ChosenOne
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Its the stigma around forest lawn, once smaller infills dominate the neighborhood like were starting to see, bigger projects along 17th will go through.A cool place-making project opening today on 17th Ave SE. Nice to see this area getting some love. There's some incredible opportunity for mixed-use development along 17th, I'm genuinely surprised we haven't seen more proposals.
Year-round outdoor skating rink opens along International Avenue
A Calgary community is celebrating the opening of a unique feature Friday.
CalgaryTiger
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I do hope international avenue doesn't lose its soul once it gets developed. If anywhere East of deerfoot sees bigger projects it is here.
Chowda7
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Lynnview Ridge redux: Imperial Oil eyes refinery lands for future housing
The former Imperial Oil refinery lands in southeast Calgary are being eyed for redevelopment, and some residents say bring it on… with adequate remediation. LiveWire Calgary has learned that there are early-stage discussions between the City of Calgary, Alberta Environment and Protected Areas...
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CalgaryTiger
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Here's hoping for some decent density near the Green Line station. It'll probably be more Trinity Hills than University District but at least it will be density.
YYCguy
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I haven’t been to either neighborhood. What are the key differences and similarities between the two?
trtcttc
Senior Member
Trinity Hills is suburban stores with some residential nearby, and University District is urban residential with stores. In UD, you are more likely to park your car and walk around the main street, whereas Trinity Hills, you park in front of the store you need to go to, get in and out.
West District to me feels like the only greenfield neighborhood that's like U/D, though Currie may get there depending on how it finishes up.
trtcttc
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I think Currie will have a small main street once more of the high density stuff is done. There might be a few restaurants or stores that do well, but it's difficult to see it shaping up to be that complete neighborhood that UD/WD are turning out to be
O-tac
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Seton is more suburban feeling than West District, but depending how they finish off the Market Street and Central Park it could improve quite a bit. Excluding of course the main retail areas to the west and the cookie cutter stick frame condos to the south.
Albertasaurus
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I still much prefer Seton to Trinity Hills, for all its flaws. Also in that part of town, Westman Village in Mahogany is surprisingly good, and I have high hopes for Beverly Mary Resort if it ever happens. And if you think about it, quite a few other new communities like Alpine Park and Nostalgia are trying to do cool things to create a "town centre" or "main street" sort of focal point.
CBBarnett
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I think the common thread in quality suburban urbanism examples in Calgary is the degree in which these developments are away or sheltered from their nearby car-sewer arterials.
Seton, Westman Village, West District, University District all did their best work building new main streets or tucking the majority of development away from nearby major roads. Arguably, Trinity Hills has the weirdest implementation because it's single corridor approach was more forced to merge an arterial and the main street, with somewhat mixed results depending on which section you are on. All examples, with the exception of West District and University District were further disrupted because the local connections to the arterials also became major car sewers, further pushing the walkable parts of the community away from these major streets. Seton area is particularly wild because of how many of the major roads are 6 lanes with enormous intersections and turning bays.
The implications are pretty big as it's not necessarily great this happened - effectively we are making highly walkable pockets locked away between car-dominated canyons preventing anything more urban emerging in the future and dramatically cutting off areas from each other. The scales are all car-centric, so distances are vast. Green Line and other LRT corridors have typically followed the car-sewer arterial, not the community development so transit-orientation remains limited. (Seton being an exception with the Green Line).
This is all rather unusual. Many more established big cities just upgrade their arterials to be more livable, not continue to build them as 60m-wide car sewers so that the a new walkable pocket of development can one-day be built a kilometre from them. We seemed to have stumbled onto a "have your cake and eat it too" situation - where we are as car dependent as ever in structural design and citywide organization of major corridors, but allowing more walkable pockets to development within that.
Put another way - it's like we universally decided hat an actually arterial/main street hybrid like a 18m-wide 17th Avenue SW is universally a terrible design and should never be built again. Instead we must build 4, 6 or 8 lane arterial monsters that are 40 to 60m wide. We seemed to decide that new functional main streets can only exist as a brand new stub road, essentially a little internally focused pocket corridor (e.g. Mahogany Centre SE for Westman, Market Street SE for Seton, University Ave in UD, Broadcast Ave for West District) rather than that corridor actually being a materially important street as part of the citywide system.
There's pros/cons to this approach of course - these development are great and the urban design is quiet good. But it's kind of an incremental improvement over a revolutionary one due to our inability to reform arterial road design.