[jordanmkasla2009]

New display and announcement programming is rolling out on the TRs.
Notable changes:
- Full use of second display line to indicate transfers to other agencies or Subway/LRT lines (full name of the line is used as opposed to just Line #).
- Doors opening announcement happen twice, once when announcing next station and upon arrival.
- Doors opening text is in green along with the arrows which now flash instead of scrolling.
- Doors closing text is in red along with the arrows.
- Last station is referred to as the “Final station” as opposed to the “terminal station”
- TMU and Cedarvale stations now used.

 

[ShonTron]

Well, then

TTC employee stabbed customer first at Dundas Station last week: Toronto police

Woman and man charged with assault and possession of weapon for dangerous purpose

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ttc-employee-stabbing-dundas-station-9.7006046

 

[T3G]

What the hell is in the water in this city? Between this, and the guy that got stabbed after he started punching a guy for playing music too loud a few years ago... does no one know to mind their own business anymore? Jesus.

 

[Northern Light]

Ok......so the TTC decided to have a meltdown today..............and boy is this a doozie.

Background, the TTC has already shuttered the downtown loop this weekend from Osgoode to College; and Line 2 from Warden to Kennedy.

***

So I get to Main, no indication of a problem til I do, and subway is down from Victoria Park to Broadview due to signal issues.

That's 13 total stations with no service. And 5 more with service in only 1 direction.

Of course shuttle buses were ordered, but took ages to stand up.

***

Now, as I'm musing how this will effect my plans.....I'm commiserating with TTC staff who can't get to their buses due to lack of subway.

I'm told.............this is the third shutdown today............ there was a brief delay of a few minutes early in the morning due to a power failure.............. then another a couple of hours ago for 30 minutes due to a trespasser at track level.

Insanity.

I settle on my revised plans and go about my business.

Get to a different station later........inside screen says next bus in 20 (for a frequent route)............ outside screen says 'next bus in 5' .

I decide to wait........bus shows up after 4........... operator then summarily leaves to go stuff his face............ normally, I'm sympathetic staff, but my patience is wearing thin........operator gone 9 minutes, to the point where a mid-day Saturday run is jammed. While waiting, I see another bus of the identical service, not bother stopping in the station after dropping off, the operator just laps us and heads out empty. Gah!

Next route I catch (and thankfully last), the wait wasn't all that long.............but the buses arrived as a pair; on a route with a 10 minute headway.

Holy @#$@

 

[Jac.]

Well, then

TTC employee stabbed customer first at Dundas Station last week: Toronto police

Woman and man charged with assault and possession of weapon for dangerous purpose

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ttc-employee-stabbing-dundas-station-9.7006046

This city never beating the glorified hell allegations...

 

[DSCToronto]

Ok......so the TTC decided to have a meltdown today..............and boy is this a doozie.

Background, the TTC has already shuttered the downtown loop this weekend from Osgoode to College; and Line 2 from Warden to Kennedy.

***

So I get to Main, no indication of a problem til I do, and subway is down from Victoria Park to Broadview due to signal issues.

That's 13 total stations with no service. And 5 more with service in only 1 direction.

Of course shuttle buses were ordered, but took ages to stand up.

***

Now, as I'm musing how this will effect my plans.....I'm commiserating with TTC staff who can't get to their buses due to lack of subway.

I'm told.............this is the third shutdown today............ there was a brief delay of a few minutes early in the morning due to a power failure.............. then another a couple of hours ago for 30 minutes due to a trespasser at track level.

Insanity.

I settle on my revised plans and go about my business.

Get to a different station later........inside screen says next bus in 20 (for a frequent route)............ outside screen says 'next bus in 5' .

I decide to wait........bus shows up after 4........... operator then summarily leaves to go stuff his face............ normally, I'm sympathetic staff, but my patience is wearing thin........operator gone 9 minutes, to the point where a mid-day Saturday run is jammed. While waiting, I see another bus of the identical service, not bother stopping in the station after dropping off, the operator just laps us and heads out empty. Gah!

Next route I catch (and thankfully last), the wait wasn't all that long.............but the buses arrived as a pair; on a route with a 10 minute headway.

Holy @#$@

I just saw 4 (maybe 5) 505 streetcars on Adelaide so assume there was some sort of problem on Dundas. The TTC website does not mention this but it may now be 'back to what passes for normal;.

 

[Northern Light]

I just saw 4 (maybe 5) 505 streetcars on Adelaide so assume there was some sort of problem on Dundas. The TTC website does not mention this but it may now be 'back to what passes for normal;.

Considering the 506 Carlton has been diverting via Dundas for the last while .....

 

[Jac.]

Ok......so the TTC decided to have a meltdown today..............and boy is this a doozie.

Background, the TTC has already shuttered the downtown loop this weekend from Osgoode to College; and Line 2 from Warden to Kennedy.

***

So I get to Main, no indication of a problem til I do, and subway is down from Victoria Park to Broadview due to signal issues.

That's 13 total stations with no service. And 5 more with service in only 1 direction.

Of course shuttle buses were ordered, but took ages to stand up.

***

Now, as I'm musing how this will effect my plans.....I'm commiserating with TTC staff who can't get to their buses due to lack of subway.

I'm told.............this is the third shutdown today............ there was a brief delay of a few minutes early in the morning due to a power failure.............. then another a couple of hours ago for 30 minutes due to a trespasser at track level.

Insanity.

I settle on my revised plans and go about my business.

Get to a different station later........inside screen says next bus in 20 (for a frequent route)............ outside screen says 'next bus in 5' .

I decide to wait........bus shows up after 4........... operator then summarily leaves to go stuff his face............ normally, I'm sympathetic staff, but my patience is wearing thin........operator gone 9 minutes, to the point where a mid-day Saturday run is jammed. While waiting, I see another bus of the identical service, not bother stopping in the station after dropping off, the operator just laps us and heads out empty. Gah!

Next route I catch (and thankfully last), the wait wasn't all that long.............but the buses arrived as a pair; on a route with a 10 minute headway.

Holy @#$@

Sweet jesus, I can't even imagine how frustrating that must've been. I absolutely hate when theres two buses on the same route and one of them is at the terminal on break and the other one leaves said terminal empty, happens a lot on the 939 before rush hour for some reason, Thursday at 14:50 there was like 3 buses at the Kennedy Station bus terminal and all of them went on break and unlike in your case where one was at already at the stop and you were just waiting for him to come back and get moving, the bus in my case legit just dashed outta the station (in service btw) and I didnt even get on a bus for like another 10 minutes, and this was after waiting for nearly 30...

 

[nfitz]

What the hell is in the water in this city? Between this, and the guy that got stabbed after he started punching a guy for playing music too loud a few years ago... does no one know to mind their own business anymore? Jesus.

Who isn't minding one's own business? It was a disagreement between two people. We don't know what caused it.

Surely the bigger issue is we've now got to the stage that TTC employees are starting knife attacks on customers that disagree with them!

Get to a different station later........inside screen says next bus in 20 (for a frequent route)............ outside screen says 'next bus in 5' .

I've noticed that before in spots. What is happening, is one is predicting when the vehicle arrives at the end of it's previous run, and the other is showing when it's scheduled to depart (why not both use the start time I don't know).

If that's what it is, the operator taking a break would be what they should do - or else they would leave early.

But route management is indeed a disaster.

What I do when I know this is a problem, is look at the prediction in Transsee for the next stop after the station. If it says something in 2 minutes, 10-minute early (or 12 minutes, on time) ... I know the departure will probably be in 10 minutes.

 

[Amare]

Ok......so the TTC decided to have a meltdown today..............and boy is this a doozie.

Background, the TTC has already shuttered the downtown loop this weekend from Osgoode to College; and Line 2 from Warden to Kennedy.

***

So I get to Main, no indication of a problem til I do, and subway is down from Victoria Park to Broadview due to signal issues.

That's 13 total stations with no service. And 5 more with service in only 1 direction.

Of course shuttle buses were ordered, but took ages to stand up.

***

Now, as I'm musing how this will effect my plans.....I'm commiserating with TTC staff who can't get to their buses due to lack of subway.

I'm told.............this is the third shutdown today............ there was a brief delay of a few minutes early in the morning due to a power failure.............. then another a couple of hours ago for 30 minutes due to a trespasser at track level.

Insanity.

I settle on my revised plans and go about my business.

Get to a different station later........inside screen says next bus in 20 (for a frequent route)............ outside screen says 'next bus in 5' .

I decide to wait........bus shows up after 4........... operator then summarily leaves to go stuff his face............ normally, I'm sympathetic staff, but my patience is wearing thin........operator gone 9 minutes, to the point where a mid-day Saturday run is jammed. While waiting, I see another bus of the identical service, not bother stopping in the station after dropping off, the operator just laps us and heads out empty. Gah!

Next route I catch (and thankfully last), the wait wasn't all that long.............but the buses arrived as a pair; on a route with a 10 minute headway.

Holy @#$@

I completely understand your frustrations, and it's reasons like this people simply drive and dont want to use the TTC because of how utterly incompetent and useless the service is most times. That experience is absolute insanity and lunacy.

This past Thursday I went through an experience in the morning rush where there were to simultaneous delays northbound on the Yonge Line (1 at Sheppard-Yonge with a door issue, and another at Bloor-Yonge due to a signal issue). It took me 30 mins to get from Union to Bloor-Yonge due to the stupidity.

Then yesterday it took me 50 mins to get from the harbourfront area to Spadina/Dundas because the TTC decided to not operate the 510 with proper vehicle spacing, so I had to take the 509 and 511 instead. The 511 car I took northbound then decided to head to Leslie and kicked everyone off at King and Bathurst, so I had to take the next 511.

I wont defend this city for the mess that is the TTC, transit in this city is a mess. What makes it more frustrating is that we have useless politicians who do nothing but talk about improving transit and do very little to improve day-to-day operations, or get in the way and impede improvements because of sheer idiocy (ie: Paula Fletcher).

It shouldnt take people 30 mins to 1 hour to travel 1-2 km within downtown Toronto, that's simply pathetic.

Then the city and TTC wonder why ridership has been declining, hmm I wonder why.

 

[T3G]

Who isn't minding one's own business? It was a disagreement between two people. We don't know what caused it.

All we know is that the two people were not known to each other, and the TTC employee pulled the first knife. Whatever the cause was, it's probably reasonable to say that it would have been smarter if she hadn't engaged with that person at all.

Surely the bigger issue is we've now got to the stage that TTC employees are starting knife attacks on customers that disagree with them!

I doubt we have reached that stage, it's probably just a standalone bad actor. But I don't disagree with you.

 

[turbanplanner]

Ok......so the TTC decided to have a meltdown today..............and boy is this a doozie.

Background, the TTC has already shuttered the downtown loop this weekend from Osgoode to College; and Line 2 from Warden to Kennedy.

***

So I get to Main, no indication of a problem til I do, and subway is down from Victoria Park to Broadview due to signal issues.

That's 13 total stations with no service. And 5 more with service in only 1 direction.

Of course shuttle buses were ordered, but took ages to stand up.

***

Now, as I'm musing how this will effect my plans.....I'm commiserating with TTC staff who can't get to their buses due to lack of subway.

I'm told.............this is the third shutdown today............ there was a brief delay of a few minutes early in the morning due to a power failure.............. then another a couple of hours ago for 30 minutes due to a trespasser at track level.

Insanity.

I settle on my revised plans and go about my business.

Get to a different station later........inside screen says next bus in 20 (for a frequent route)............ outside screen says 'next bus in 5' .

I decide to wait........bus shows up after 4........... operator then summarily leaves to go stuff his face............ normally, I'm sympathetic staff, but my patience is wearing thin........operator gone 9 minutes, to the point where a mid-day Saturday run is jammed. While waiting, I see another bus of the identical service, not bother stopping in the station after dropping off, the operator just laps us and heads out empty. Gah!

Next route I catch (and thankfully last), the wait wasn't all that long.............but the buses arrived as a pair; on a route with a 10 minute headway.

Holy @#$@

I wonder how many of those showed on the delays page of the website, 90% of the time when there is a delay when I'm riding it won't show up or be announced

New display and announcement programming is rolling out on the TRs.
Notable changes:
- Full use of second display line to indicate transfers to other agencies or Subway/LRT lines (full name of the line is used as opposed to just Line #).
- Doors opening announcement happen twice, once when announcing next station and upon arrival.
- Doors opening text is in green along with the arrows which now flash instead of scrolling.
- Doors closing text is in red along with the arrows.
- Last station is referred to as the “Final station” as opposed to the “terminal station”
- TMU and Cedarvale stations now used.

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Why did they wait over a decade to enable this?

 

[nfitz]

I wonder how many of those showed on the delays page of the website, 90% of the time when there is a delay when I'm riding it won't show up or be announced

If it's not announced, it probably doesn't last long enough to do anything different, given the number of announcements that I hear that clear 3 or 4 minutes later.

It looks like these were all announced looking at https://x.com/search?q=line 2 from:ttcnotices&src=typed_query&f=live

The Victoria Park to Broadview was announced at 1:39 pm and cleared at 4:04 pm (ouch). I don't see the trespasser at track level listed, but there was 12:59 pmunruly customer at Spadina that cleared 1-minute later at 1:00 pm. And presumably the "power failure" was for the fire at St. George station that closed Broadview to Keele from 12:09 pm to 12:41 pm.

Now there was a trespasser on the track around Wellesley, at about 5:30 pm this afternoon - but that cleared in less than a minute.

Perhaps if Northern Lights tells us the station and bus number, we could check the data to see what went wrong.

 

[turbanplanner]

If it's not announced, it probably doesn't last long enough to do anything different, given the number of announcements that I hear that clear 3 or 4 minutes later.

It looks like these were all announced looking at https://x.com/search?q=line 2 from:ttcnotices&src=typed_query&f=live

The Victoria Park to Broadview was announced at 1:39 pm and cleared at 4:04 pm (ouch). I don't see the trespasser at track level listed, but there was 12:59 pmunruly customer at Spadina that cleared 1-minute later at 1:00 pm. And presumably the "power failure" was for the fire at St. George station that closed Broadview to Keele from 12:09 pm to 12:41 pm.

Now there was a trespasser on the track around Wellesley, at about 5:30 pm this afternoon - but that cleared in less than a minute.

Perhaps if Northern Lights tells us the station and bus number, we could check the data to see what went wrong.

Thanks for checking! I don't have twitter so I never see more than the most recent announcement.

 

[APTA-2048]

New display and announcement programming is rolling out on the TRs.
Notable changes:
- Full use of second display line to indicate transfers to other agencies or Subway/LRT lines (full name of the line is used as opposed to just Line #).
- Doors opening announcement happen twice, once when announcing next station and upon arrival.
- Doors opening text is in green along with the arrows which now flash instead of scrolling.
- Doors closing text is in red along with the arrows.
- Last station is referred to as the “Final station” as opposed to the “terminal station”
- TMU and Cedarvale stations now used.

View attachment 700987View attachment 700989View attachment 700990View attachment 700992

Is the out of service audio message also new? Maybe I just never heard it before.