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Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, calling anyone out for ANYTHING in this day and age where every kind of shitty, anti-social behaviour has been normalized feels like a taboo, so I support it from that perspective, but on the other hand, who is actually out here listening to station announcements? Everyone's got their headphones in, and the guy that's off his face abusing drugs in the station is not going to be in the correct frame of mind to receive information. Seems pretty pointless.
 
Warden from yesterday. Guess enough has now been built to visualise the final product in my head.
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T3G said:

Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, calling anyone out for ANYTHING in this day and age where every kind of shitty, anti-social behaviour has been normalized feels like a taboo, so I support it from that perspective, but on the other hand, who is actually out here listening to station announcements? Everyone's got their headphones in, and the guy that's off his face abusing drugs in the station is not going to be in the correct frame of mind to receive information. Seems pretty pointless.
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They are assuming that shame will work - when it is pretty apparent that for some (if not most) of the offenders it is simply not a concern. Now if you take action to remove them, it will provide a lesson for the individual and the bystanders that s**t will truly not be tolerated, and that you will be yeeted for it.

AoD
 
⁠On Saturday, November 8 and Sunday, November 9, there will be no GO train service on the Kitchener Line due to planned construction.   GO buses will run between Mount Pleasant, Brampton and Bramalea GO and Hwy 407 Bus Terminal, where you can connect to TTC Line 1 to Union Station.
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Note that suggestion about what to do and then consider this:
There will be no subway service on Line 1 between St George and St Andrew stations on Saturday, November 8 and Sunday, November 9 for planned station work. Shuttle buses will not be operating.
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There's going to be so many pissed off people from the western 905 who have no idea where to go or what to do at St. George facing their second construction closure of the day.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
They are assuming that shame will work - when it is pretty apparent that for some (if not most) of the offenders it is simply not a concern. Now if you take action to remove them, it will provide a lesson for the individual and the bystanders that s**t will truly not be tolerated, and that you will be yeeted for it.

AoD
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Yeah, if you're already on the security cameras and seeing some bad behaviour, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just... call the authorities.

Also, on thinking about it, I'm not sure that having a disembodied voice shaming a disturbed individual is going to do wondrous things for platform level safety, either...
 
T3G said:
Yeah, if you're already on the security cameras and seeing some bad behaviour, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just... call the authorities.

Also, on thinking about it, I'm not sure that having a disembodied voice shaming a disturbed individual is going to do wondrous things for platform level safety, either...
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It's almost like they wanted to do everything except enforce the bylaws that they had around nuisance. It's totally anemic.

AoD.
 
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T3G said:

Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, calling anyone out for ANYTHING in this day and age where every kind of shitty, anti-social behaviour has been normalized feels like a taboo, so I support it from that perspective, but on the other hand, who is actually out here listening to station announcements? Everyone's got their headphones in, and the guy that's off his face abusing drugs in the station is not going to be in the correct frame of mind to receive information. Seems pretty pointless.
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This sounds the same as when on streetcars the operator will passive-aggressively play the "you must provide proof of purchase when using the TTC" or whatever soundbyte when people don't pay when they board.
 
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T3G said:
Yeah, if you're already on the security cameras and seeing some bad behaviour, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just... call the authorities.

Also, on thinking about it, I'm not sure that having a disembodied voice shaming a disturbed individual is going to do wondrous things for platform level safety, either...
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Ok....so I've been looking for an excuse to bring this up...........

Did you know that the TTC CSAs/Collectors can only see the 4 camera views that you can see as you walk into a station (typically the entrance, with 2 angles and 2 platform views)?

That's right, a typical station might have more than a dozen cameras, larger stations more than that, but CSAs, generally cannot see the entire platform, cannot see mezzanine areas, and cannot see stairway/escalators or elevators.

Only the staff assigned to the security hubs have access, but they are generally looking at 6-10 different stations at the same time.

Who exactly is doing this shaming?

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Further note, most stations lack cameras on bus/streetcar platforms, creating a huge blindspot.
 
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This sounds the same as when on streetcars the operator will passive-aggressively play the "you must provide proof of purchase when using the TTC" or whatever soundbyte when people don't pay when they board.
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Given the increased number of beeps I've heard after the announcement then that suggests this pilot might work too.

I'm not sure what the concern here is. Nothing indicates that they'd stop calling in security as well. But surely if someone is (I don't know) tagging a wall, they are likely to move on quicker once they realize they've been seen.

Just think of it as a kindly big brother keep an eye out for you. :)
 
Saw this at Warden earlier.

While the elevators are in place and powered up I suspect they won't be operating this year for public use.

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