turbanplanner
Senior Member
I haven't been to paris in over 10 years but last I was there the lack of AC on some trains made the smell disgusting, so at least the TTC never really has AC issues minus that 1 summer
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smallspy
Senior Member
Richard White
Senior Member
Oof.
JSF-1
Active Member
So for routes like the 102 which stop on the street, do they just run through the bus loop and then turn back onto Warden to serve their stop? I wonder why the TTC didn't build something bigger so all routes could stop at the temp terminal instead of on street. Is it because they didn't want to take up any more parking lot space and risk exiling drivers to northern parking lot?
T3G
Senior Member
I wouldn't be able to say how much % of the workforce is like this. And it must be said, in all fairness, that there's a lot of friendly operators out there who have been receptive to me and friends of mine when we've taken photos of their vehicle. But, going back to 2012 and continuing right through to the present day, I've had a not insignificant amount of hostile interactions, ranging from ops who thought I was trying to get them in trouble while they do their job, through to them calling the police on me.
Both variants seem utterly baffling to me. I doubt that head on confrontations with people you think are doing something wrong is part of the TTC training policy, because that seems like a great way for people to put themselves in danger. (And I don't think it's a photography thing alone - I think there was something on here a few months ago about ops confronting people who walk in through the bus platforms without paying? Also doesn't seem smart).
And confronting someone you think is trying to dig up dirt on you, though an understandable natural reaction, is surely self defeating if you're going into the interaction with a hostile tone. It's playing right into their hands. If I was a management plant trying to crucify said op, or a member of the public trying to do the same, they're giving me loads of ammo to work with.
It is probably my biggest customer service issue with the TTC. I don't really mind, personally if an op ignores me when I greet them (of course, a friendly greeting returned is always superior), but the half-flinch every time I press my shutter... well, luckily the sidewalks outside of the stations are usually better spots for photos, anyway. But sometimes circumstances dictate otherwise, and you don't know who it is you're dealing with. The first hostile confrontation I had with a bus driver was when I was only 14. Guy at Wilson told me I wasn't allowed to take photos and threatened to call the police on me and my mother, who was accompanying me. He walked away and we tried to board a bus to go away, but he came out of the station building and started pounding on the doors of the bus right after they had closed. I don't know what happened for him to think that was an acceptable reaction.
Now, all that being said, I'm not sure how much I like the idea of the op name being used instead of a "hey you". It's a subjective thing, but in my years of working retail I always found it to be unsettling when a customer tried to be all buddy buddy with me like they weren't a stranger.
Richard White
Senior Member
They did not build something bigger due to a last minute pivot to create a new PPDUO area.
The original idea was to use the entire south parking lot as a temporary terminal however they could not find a viable way to utilize the existing PPUDO without rolling closures. That led to the creation of the temporary PPDUO area in the parking lot to avoid the need for passenger drop offs on St Clair Avenue East or Warden Avenue.
As the new PPUDO area was an urgent last minute addition, I doubt much thought was given to what would happen if they did it.
I felt this after coming back from Munich where the old subway cars were so clean. The TTC cars not so much.
81-717
Active Member
Ironically Munich is the closest analogy to the TTC, where the old cars are in married pairs and the new cars are 6-car sets with open gangways.
chrisw
Active Member
I think that’s what hit me the most. Obviously old equipment but so clean. No dirt in the corner kind of thing.
Northern Light
Superstar
The Globe had a piece out today on the spiraling costs of transit projects in Canada.
Nothing I haven't reported before, indeed, less specificity on causes than some of what I've had to say.......
Still, good to see it out there:
www.theglobeandmail.com
Nothing I haven't reported before, indeed, less specificity on causes than some of what I've had to say.......
Still, good to see it out there:
Canadian transit projects, mired in delays and cost overruns, force a rethink on what’s gone wrong
Political micromanagement and public-private partnerships each play a role in ill-fated projects that planners are now using as cautionary tales
www.theglobeandmail.com
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Richard White
Senior Member
Just some observations from Warden this morning..
There is no dedicated unloading or staging area for buses which makes things a tad more difficult.
Drivers who have their breaks, layovers, etc have nowhere to do so other than at the platforms.
God help us if we have Plans A through F occur at the same time or if we have a Priority One at Warden. Emergency vehicles, plus shuttles is going to be a fun situation.
- There is insufficient space for the number of buses in the rush hour
- Some buses such as the 17 Birchmount have to wait on the street while their colleagues lay-over at the platform
- Buses are laying over on the Southbound curb lanes of Warden Avenue
- There is a dedicated entrance and exit at Warden Station
There is no dedicated unloading or staging area for buses which makes things a tad more difficult.
Drivers who have their breaks, layovers, etc have nowhere to do so other than at the platforms.
God help us if we have Plans A through F occur at the same time or if we have a Priority One at Warden. Emergency vehicles, plus shuttles is going to be a fun situation.
Northern Light
Superstar
The Mayor and the TTC Chair have a presser tomorrow morning at Wilson Yard.
As the TTC budget is overdue (on the agenda of a Commission meeting this Friday), I expect it will concern that; presumably there will be goodies if there is a presser.
I will review the details for UT when I have them.
As the TTC budget is overdue (on the agenda of a Commission meeting this Friday), I expect it will concern that; presumably there will be goodies if there is a presser.
I will review the details for UT when I have them.
duffo
Active Member
Expect an update on this....
5-Year Fare Policy and 10-Year Fare Collection Outlook
The following are for City of Toronto locations only:
www.ttc.ca
81-717
Active Member
Is that all? Just fares? No more news about line 2?