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DSC said:
Now it's

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Chris Moise and Holyday are off. Replaced by Bravo and Malik
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Wow, Stephen Holyday is finally off.

Obviously they all line up with Chow, and TTC is a high profile position. But I think Amber Morley would have been a better replacement for Stephen Holyday. She represents Etobicoke, and she also aligns with Chow. And I'm sure she'll need a high profile position to help her for next election.

Next step, replacing the citizen board members. Long over due. Any Tory deadwood should be removed.
 
RapidTransit said:
Wow, Stephen Holyday is finally off.

Obviously they all line up with Chow, and TTC is a high profile position. But I think Amber Morley would have been a better replacement for Stephen Holyday. She represents Etobicoke, and she also aligns with Chow. And I'm sure she'll need a high profile position to help her for next election.

Next step, replacing the citizen board members. Long over due. Any Tory deadwood should be removed.
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Holyday has actually only been on Board for 2 years - yes, 2 years too long, but..... He replaced Minnan-Wong as Olivia was trying to be 'nice'.
 
DSC said:
Holyday has actually only been on Board for 2 years - yes, 2 years too long, but..... He replaced Minnan-Wong as Olivia was trying to be 'nice'.
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Not all experiments work. Happily, Chow decided to move on
 
DSC said:
Holyday has actually only been on Board for 2 years - yes, 2 years too long, but..... He replaced Minnan-Wong as Olivia was trying to be 'nice'.
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Minnan-Wong did not run for reelection and Mayor Dithers was still in power so I think it unlikely that's the reason for his initial appointment. However, I concur her being nice is likely the reason he wasn't immediately replaced upon her becoming mayor.
 
smallspy said:
I wouldn't assume that.

They have to apply for and pass Transport Canada's regulations before they will be allowed to be sold here.

And there is a far more local player that simply hasn't, despite being around for 50+ years - Gillig.

Dan
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Not only they need TC approval, they need meet the Altoona testing requirement, but most of all meet the Buy America requirements if Federal funding is involved. Unless a waver is issue or being funded by the state or city, X cannot entre the US for use unless for testing.

There been talk for sometime that some European manufactures are looking at setting up shop in NA. That has happen in the past and they disappear over time due poor quality products and financial issues. NABI was taken over by New Flyer. TTC had problems with 60's that they sold them to Mississauga well before their life cycle was up from oversea.

It been said Gillig only wants small orders, but have supply a few orders over 100 buses and prefer not to make 60' foot buses. I have seen them as far west as Minneapolis and Las Vegas as well south to Orlando, Seen them in between as well along the east coast as far as Maine. They just expanded their plant to meet production needs.

They seem not interested in the Canadian market from what I been told.
 
One assumes this will take longer than planned!

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DSC said:
One assumes this will take longer than planned!

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$600, 000 spread is close to 30% lower than the spread between bids. CRCE is the only other bidder who has done TTC work and were slow doing so that I know of. With Sanscon doing most of TTC work close to since 2005 that I know of, they know the end and out how to do TTC work fasters than others.

What is interesting is the bid price and contract award value with Sanscon still well be low it while the other are more close to it being above it. They may left money on the table in need of work with is common when one needs work for slow time or keep their key personal busy.

Based on the dated posted for this work here in the past, I wasn't expecting to see a December 31, 2027 completion date as noted above.
 
drum118 said:
$600, 000 spread is close to 30% lower than the spread between bids. CRCE is the only other bidder who has done TTC work and were slow doing so that I know of. With Sanscon doing most of TTC work close to since 2005 that I know of, they know the end and out how to do TTC work fasters than others.

What is interesting is the bid price and contract award value with Sanscon still well be low it while the other are more close to it being above it. They may left money on the table in need of work with is common when one needs work for slow time or keep their key personal busy.

Based on the dated posted for this work here in the past, I wasn't expecting to see a December 31, 2027 completion date as noted above.
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Just to refresh our memories of their work on Military Trail Road see: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2023/ia/bgrd/backgroundfile-237381.pdf They were also the main contractor on the amazingly delayed project on Wellington Street a year or so earlier.
 
DSC said:
Just to refresh our memories of their work on Military Trail Road see: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2023/ia/bgrd/backgroundfile-237381.pdf They were also the main contractor on the amazingly delayed project on Wellington Street a year or so earlier.
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Cannot speak to Military Trail Road, but the city help to delay Wellington work. Not every contract will run smooth for various reason, but Sanscon has done more work than others that puts them in the lime line like Toronto Hydro who are known to be late most of the time as well Guild.

As someone who has photograph a lot of TTC work, very rare I have seen issues with Sanscon compared to others ones doing the work. Some issues were beyond their control to TTC not having trackwork ready for them.
 
drum118 said:
Cannot speak to Military Trail Road, but the city help to delay Wellington work. Not every contract will run smooth for various reason, but Sanscon has done more work than others that puts them in the lime line like Toronto Hydro who are known to be late most of the time as well Guild.

As someone who has photograph a lot of TTC work, very rare I have seen issues with Sanscon compared to others ones doing the work. Some issues were beyond their control to TTC not having trackwork ready for them.
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I have seen them produce lots of deficiencies on their jobs, more than one a TTC job.

I can tell you based on my contacts in the City, they are not well liked and many staff are exasperated that Sanscon hasn't been banned from bidding.

I'll go so far as to say, I'm genuinely surprised you haven't seen more issues w/their work.
 
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