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evandyk said:
I’ve noticed a new thing at Broadview station where the 504 pulls in and a 4-5 person cleaning crew breezes through with brooms and cleaning cloths. Nice initiative. Wonder if the new CEO gave a directive. It reminds me of Japan. (In a very small way.)
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This was started under Leary actually.

Its a once a day thing mid-run, crew is there a bit after morning rush til afternoon rush.

I don't know if they stopped it for a bit, I haven't seen them there in awhile, but I'm not usually there mid-day.

I believe its weekday only, but don't hold me to that.

* Also, I get your allusion to Japan, where cleaning is often done in decent sized teams. This includes station work.

They all come in at once, and work away, at speed, til the assigned work is done then on to the next.
 
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I’m only there weekdays just after/before rush hour (9ish and 4ish) so that checks out. I don’t think I’ve seen it before, but saw it both times I was here in the last week, so I thought it was new.
 
Nov 8
Not a fun day using TTC starting with Kipling where I waited 25 minutes for a train to only sit for another 6 minutes before moving. The next westbound train was at Islington when we arrived and another waiting to get to the station. Based on the lack of riders on the platforms going east, looks like a few trains got short turn to fill that large gap in front of my train. We sat for another 2 minutes at Jane and St George to allow for service adjustment.

At Broadview, the next vehicle sign said 7 minutes for a 505 and 10 for 504 with the 505 showing up sooner, but was delay in loading by the 2 person cleaning crew and driver disappearing is was around noon. Got on the 505 as I was only going to Dundas. As we sat there, a 504 pull in and did a quick stop and go before its schedule time.

Saw a number of 506 playing follow the leader in both dictions.

Got on a 506 heading to Main east of Broadview, but only made it to Carlaw where it went out of service. The next vehicle sign said 7 minutes for the next one and 33 after the first one. When that next car show up, it was out of service with the driver saying there was a medical emergency at Main and no idea what was plan for the line east of Carlaw. 15 minutes later, a bus show up for the 506 that allow me to get off way before Main. It must been one of the 501 buses that became 506.

As for cleaners, there used to be a crew at Kipling and been a long time I seen they that clean the trains as they arrived.

At Kipling, crew were preparing to install rebar in the existing sidewalk edge to allow pouring of the new sidewalk over the tunnel.

As of November 19, the south parking lot is to be close which is odd as they were working on that area from what I could see from the platform unless that is a 2023 noticed with no year on it or I miss it.
 
This (undated) notice just appeared on TTC website. Not sure what their old procedures were but these seem pretty standard to me

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DSC said:
This (undated) notice just appeared on TTC website. Not sure what their old procedures were but these seem pretty standard to me

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The change in procedure is that buses will no longer be required to stop at level crossings with signals, if those signals are not activated.

Discussion at CPTDB: (from member STC125)

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I note that the TTC now have the new Route map up for the 501 and they seem to be REALLY cutting back on stops!

Eastbound it stops at Queen and University (Osgood Station) and then not again until Adelaide and Yonge followed by Church at Queen.

Westbound it stops at Queen at Jarvis, Church at Richmond, Richmond at Yonge and Queen at University (Osgood Station).

At least a stop at Bay would seem like a good idea in both directions and a stop at or near Adelaide & Church going eastbound..
 
DSC said:
I note that the TTC now have the new Route map up for the 501 and they seem to be REALLY cutting back on stops!

Eastbound it stops at Queen and University (Osgood Station) and then not again until Adelaide and Yonge followed by Church at Queen.

Westbound it stops at Queen at Jarvis, Church at Richmond, Richmond at Yonge and Queen at University (Osgood Station).

At least a stop at Bay would seem like a good idea in both directions and a stop at or near Adelaide & Church going eastbound..
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You can see the same stops on the 501 page that lists the stops too. Though I've seen past detours where they've missed a couple. I'm surprised there isn't one at Adelaide and York either.
 
nfitz said:
You can see the same stops on the 501 page that lists the stops too. Though I've seen past detours where they've missed a couple. I'm surprised there isn't one at Adelaide and York either.
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I also looked at the actual 'schedules' and though they do sometimes omit stops from maps, I think the schedules normally have them all.
 
DSC said:
I also looked at the actual 'schedules' and though they do sometimes omit stops from maps, I think the schedules normally have them all.
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I think the stop list for routes on the TTC website is data-driven, from the same database.

In reality though, I've seen for 506 detour busification (particularly for one they've not done before) them add a stop or two within a day or two of operations beginning, when the flaws become apparent. Especially if they missed a transfer point (the Bay bus comes to mind).
 
nfitz said:
I think the stop list for routes on the TTC website is data-driven, from the same database.

In reality though, I've seen for 506 detour busification (particularly for one they've not done before) them add a stop or two within a day or two of operations beginning, when the flaws become apparent. Especially if they missed a transfer point (the Bay bus comes to mind).
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Forgetting about stops is excusable, maybe, for a short-term diversion route - this one will be in effect for about 3 years!
 
DSC said:
I note that the TTC now have the new Route map up for the 501 and they seem to be REALLY cutting back on stops!

Eastbound it stops at Queen and University (Osgood Station) and then not again until Adelaide and Yonge followed by Church at Queen.

Westbound it stops at Queen at Jarvis, Church at Richmond, Richmond at Yonge and Queen at University (Osgood Station).

At least a stop at Bay would seem like a good idea in both directions and a stop at or near Adelaide & Church going eastbound..
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Steve Munro has blog on this (SEE: https://stevemunro.ca/2024/11/06/50...e-begins-november-10-corrected-date/#comments ) and he notes that TTC are not following their own stop spacing standards.

"TTC has confirmed that stops at York, Bay and Victoria have been dropped as they are in walking distance of other stops. Frankly I think this is a mistake considering where the existing bus service stops along the way. Nothing like making transit easily accessible."
 
DSC said:
Steve Munro has blog on this (SEE: https://stevemunro.ca/2024/11/06/50...e-begins-november-10-corrected-date/#comments ) and he notes that TTC are not following their own stop spacing standards.

"TTC has confirmed that stops at York, Bay and Victoria have been dropped as they are in walking distance of other stops. Frankly I think this is a mistake considering where the existing bus service stops along the way. Nothing like making transit easily accessible."
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That's absolutely bizarre. Even if you make the distance argument, the time to get a streetcar through all the traffic lights and turns from Yonge to University is stupid.
These financial district commuters are the core market for the 501 and they are making it even worse to use the TTC for this diversion, when they actually have an opportunity make it better!
 
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