Monarch Butterfly said:
Any rapid transit expansion should include annexation by the City of Toronto.
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I'd argue that Toronto is as big as it needs to be now. We already have an urban-suburban split within Toronto. Let's say Markham and Vaughan ("The City Above Toronto" 🙄) joined, old City issues would (I believe) be largely ignored.
 
T3G said:
Right, because that worked out so well in 1998?
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Well enough for none of the former boroughs to have separated as of yet, at least.

PL1 said:
I'd argue that Toronto is as big as it needs to be now.
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Which, of course, does not mean we should never expand the subway network at least slightly beyond its municipal borders.

TJ O'Pootertoot said:
There is a point where extending too far becomes counter-productive and I'm not sure where that is but it definitely isn't Highway 7 (and it definitely isn't Steeles, which has no import beyond it being a line on a map, dictating where taxes go).
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Agreed.
 
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blaixx said:
Agreed. The two ends of the line are too suburban and too far from each other to make sense. VMC is more than 8km from Yonge!

Even in the pre-TYSSE plan that connected the lines across Steeles, its a long way to go and I don't think it would have been worth it for many riders to go "up and over".
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The point of closing the loop is not to be able to service more areas.

The point of closing the loop is to be ale to provide more service on the existing line. The main limiting factor to reducing the headways is the crossovers at the ends of the line. Running all service in a loop means that trains don't have to turn around and can run closer to each other.

All that said - there are several more cost-effective ways to reduce headways with the current system track configuration and geometry.

Dan
 
smallspy said:
The point of closing the loop is not to be able to service more areas.

The point of closing the loop is to be ale to provide more service on the existing line. The main limiting factor to reducing the headways is the crossovers at the ends of the line. Running all service in a loop means that trains don't have to turn around and can run closer to each other.
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And yet to increase services and fix the decades long operational problems on the Circle line in London, they broke the circle, and turned it into a corkscrew, with fixed service from one end to the other.
 
Edward Skira said:
A distant relative owns the land under the LCBO north of Yonge and Cummer. This news is going to make him a very happy man as the north exit of this station should sit close to his property.
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The building on the corner where pizza ville was is already vacated and ready to be gutted.
 
nfitz said:
And yet to increase services and fix the decades long operational problems on the Circle line in London, they broke the circle, and turned it into a corkscrew, with fixed service from one end to the other.
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I didn't say that it was a particularly smart idea.....

Aplus23 said:
wouldn't extending Sheppard both directions "close the loop" or that wouldn't really help logistic issues and include a transfer of course
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No, because the trains wouldn't run on Sheppard.

Dan
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
Next to Wonderland is the Cortellucci Vaughan Hospital and offices for Canada's Wonderland. Likely the office staff work in the off season. Putting in the Line 1 extension to Mayor MacKenzie Drive would mean most of the parking lots will be redeveloped.
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Canadas wonderland is developing a winter attraction events / hotels. maybe not in the next year but within the next 5-15 years
 
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