GenerationLee
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That is true, math is hard.Only the ones of you that can do math.
That is true, math is hard.Only the ones of you that can do math.
Bollards apparently won't work on the Union Station forecourt because the sidewalk is very shallow with the subway station directly underneath.
But there's no reason they had to just plunk down these blocks seemingly without any public space expertise. There's zero reason to place them this close together other than having left it to the contractor to make that decision which allowed them to sell more of them and rack up the budget. There is no such thing as a one metre wide car that is a threat to public safety. A 2 metre gap would've prevented any car or truck from making it into the plaza while allowing an unobstructed pedestrian flow.
The fix: They should swap out every other block for a planter instead. It'll at least break up the visual clutter. Replace a row of them with bike share stations. There was one there for years and it worked just fine to prevent car incursions. Add seating to the blocks that remain.
This is from the same manufacturer that provides the blocks:
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Indeed! The (UK based) concrete block manufacturer the City used actually offers lots of much nicer designs, these Manchester ones may well be from them too.Came across these at Manchester Piccadilly and needless to say they look so much better than ours. They were also getting heavy use as seating towards the station entrance.
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Indeed! The (UK based) concrete block manufacturer the City used actually offers lots of much nicer designs, these Manchester ones may well be from them too.
I fear you are being naive - we live in Toronto - home of the 'utilitarian'!![]()
'Eyesores' have appeared outside Manchester Piccadilly station
Campaigners described them as an 'eyesore', but Network Rail said only the first stage of works has been donewww.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
Interesting that when they were initially implemented, they didn't have the wood on top - there's still hope!
I fear you are being naive - we live in Toronto - home of the 'utilitarian'!
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'Eyesores' have appeared outside Manchester Piccadilly station
Campaigners described them as an 'eyesore', but Network Rail said only the first stage of works has been donewww.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
Interesting that when they were initially implemented, they didn't have the wood on top - there's still hope!
Trees, bollards, road bends, kerbs and traffic-free zones are all part of the available arsenal - jumping straight to massive obstructive blocks is lazy design."
I’ve already beaten the wayfinding subject to death, but this has to be one of the most baffling signage contradictions in the entire station.
This space probably sees the highest foot traffic in the entire station, since it’s both the entrance to the subway station and the northern PATH, and has 2 conflicting signs telling people where the trains and the mystery point of interest marker are:
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Seriously, what is that point of interest icon supposed to represent?? It’s only on these signs in the subway station
Those of us/you who like signage talk may 'enjoy' this book on airport signage: https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/13640/chapter/1And I get that UP Express is a train but you're going to the airport. An airplane icon would be far more informative. Tourists and even many locals have no idea what an UP Express is.