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shortbranch said:
When Pusateri's closed they already put up the walls to close off that area so it is already half built. Cutting off the Sheraton access would be a shame since getting to Eatons Centre at street level from there is a mess due to the Ontario Line construction
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It's alot more work to connect Queen Station to the Sheraton Centre.

It's the preferred connection but not the easiest one.
 
Free soup on fridays if you’re in the Path. Big lineup at the Soup Nutsy in Richmond-Adelaide.

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Not directed at evandyk but I can't help but to chuckle at the notion of free soup being handed out to the whippersnappers and highrollers of the Financial District!
 
AlbertC said:
Not directed at evandyk but I can't help but to chuckle at the notion of free soup being handed out to the whippersnappers and highrollers of the Financial District!
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I see on the asterisk there it comes at the cost of having to download and install the Oxford Realty app on your phone, which probably is hyper harvesting all your personal data, and that's where this is funded.
 
Yup. I briefly thought of getting soup, but didn’t want to download the app. And then I saw the lineup.

So I walked a minute further and went to Assembly Chefs Hall and got the lamb pepper fry paratha burger from Charcoal Biryani. Basically Indian sloppy Joe’s. It’s delicious.
 
shortbranch said:
With the apparent inevitable closure of The Hudson's Bay one can wonder what will become of the PATH connection. Since Cadillac Fairview owns the property they could keep the lower level open to the general public. Perhaps the 3 out of 4 broken escalators will finally be fixed. Perhaps it will be open at 6am like the rest of the PATH. Perhaps the Starbucks inside the store outside the Queen TTC station will stay open.
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Most PATH connections come with a legally binding agreement with the City allowing access during all hours in which the subway operates.

Mon-Saturday, 5:45am to 2:15am

Sunday 7:45am to 2:15am.

I don't think Cadillac has any out clause, though perhaps 'The Bay' does have some restrictions at some times.

'The Bay was always set up with folding glass doors that could close off retail/display areas. I've walked through when its closed many times.

Covid was a weird exception.......when even TEC was screening people with guards.
 
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Boarding went up at the Sheraton PATH retail and surrounds the seating area outside the retail portion (not the food court). Cant imagine they are renovating that small area.


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Northern Light said:
Most PATH connections come with a legally binding agreement with the City allowing access during all hours in which the subway operates.

Mon-Saturday, 5:45am to 2:15am

Sunday 7:45am to 2:15am.

I don't think Cadillac has any out clause, though perhaps 'The Bay' does have some restrictions at some times.

'The Bay was always set up with folding glass doors that could close off retail/display areas. I've walked through when its closed many times.

Covid was a weird exception.......when even TEC was screening people with guards.
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I walk through the PATH at 6am on weekdays and The Bay is not open until about 8am from my experience. After 8 you can walk through all the retail area of that level to get to Eaton's Centre but no one is working. Likely a security person nearby perhaps..
 
shortbranch said:
I walk through the PATH at 6am on weekdays and The Bay is not open until about 8am from my experience. After 8 you can walk through all the retail area of that level to get to Eaton's Centre but no one is working. Likely a security person nearby perhaps..
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Interesting. I worked in the Thomson Building at Queen and Bay from 2005 to 2006 and they allowed you through the Bay starting at about 6 a.m. when the subway opened.
I started work at 7:30 a.m. back then, so I was going through well before the store opening time and they had a roped off pathway to get through the store to the Thomson Building.
It was a much busier route then too because the Bay-Adelaide connection did not yet exist, so people coming north from Union or south from Queen took the long way around and through FCP and the Sheraton to get to/from the Eaton Centre/Scotia Plaza area.
I recall pedestrian rage many times as there would be people that stop to gawk at the merchandise on display beyond the rope line blocking the pathway for everyone.
 
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torontowest91 said:
This part is from the 90s? 80s? Shocked it hasn’t been gutted yet.
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From my experience working around there in the mid-2000's, the adjacent buildings didn't have any food courts, maybe some mom&pop bagel shop, otherwise you had to trek much further to the basement of The Bay, or far to the west in the PATH.
I suspect until the pandemic they were very likely the "I only have five minutes to get something" and/or the "it's good enough" option to keep it going for the office workers in that area, so no modernization was contemplated. Now it's toast.

Also, I wonder if there's some structural complications with a renovation there.
As you can see in that photo, this food court segment is oddly about three feet higher than the PATH to the west, and maybe that's because it sits over the ramp into the City Hall parking garage?
Perhaps that would make any renovation more complicated if they would need to close that ramp to do a total gut renovation?
 
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Jonny5 said:
From my experience working around there in the mid-2000's, the adjacent buildings didn't have any food courts, maybe some mom&pop bagel shop, otherwise you had to trek much further to the basement of The Bay, or far to the west in the PATH.
I suspect until the pandemic they were very likely the "I only have five minutes to get something" and/or the "it's good enough" option to keep it going for the office workers in that area, so no modernization was contemplated. Now it's toast.

Also, I wonder if there's some structural complications with a renovation there.
As you can see in that photo, this food court segment is oddly about three feet higher than the PATH to the west, and maybe that's because it sits over the ramp into the City Hall parking garage?
Perhaps that would make any renovation more complicated if they would need to close that ramp to do a total gut renovation?
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They (the Sheraton Centre/the City) should get rid of the ramp and kill two birds with one stone. That ramp along Queen is an urbanism disaster. There are enough other entrances to the City Hall garage that it would easily survive without that ramp. Plus you'd massively improve the pedestrian experience on Queen, and maybe finally the retail at street-level of the Sheraton Centre would have a chance of surviving since it wouldn't be such a miserable experience to walk along the south side of Queen.
 
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