My thought was that the additional tracks and platforms at Park Lawn could be for an elevated extension of the Ontario Line. There's been debate about whether having GO, a subway, and a streetcar all on exactly the same alignment makes any sense, but it is a potential that some are in favour of.
 
crs1026 said:
I’m curious what the plan was west of Exhibition, however. The only way I can imagine six tracks thru Sunnyside is with some expensive bridgeworks at Dunn and then some ugly retaining walls and loss of the green space along King east of Roncy.
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Unless it actually became a shedded corridor (post electrification) from Dufferin to Roncesvalles, with greenspace on top like my local Weston tunnel.
 
Posting since the corridor next to Humber Bay has been discussed at length here recently:
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As part of investigative work for the GO Expansion project, crews will be drilling vertical boreholes to assess ground conditions within the Lakeshore West rail corridor. This work will support future track and infrastructure updates. For safety reasons, this work may take place overnight when revenue trains are not in service.
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We've put up a front page story acknowledging the recent movement here on the station and the first phase of the adjacent 2150 Lake Shore redevelopment.

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Unfortunately the latest plan diminishes the quality of the transit connection from streetcar to GO train which is a disservice to all the folks between Park Lawn and Long Branch that would likely transfer here due to fare integration and speed to downtown. It seems a common theme that unlike the TTC stations which made internal and easy transfers a priority many of the new GO stations (Park Lawn, Stockyards, Woodbine Racetrack) are not focusing on the quality of the transfer.
 
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EnviroTO said:
Unfortunately the latest plan diminishes the quality of the transit connection from streetcar to GO train which is a disservice to all the folks between Park Lawn and Long Branch that would likely transfer here due to fare integration and speed to downtown. It seems a common theme that unlike the TTC stations which made internal and easy transfers a priority many of the new GO stations (Park Lawn, Stockyards, Woodbine Racetrack) are focusing on the quality of the transfer.
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Yes, with a clean slate like this, the goal should be a streetcar loop next to or underneath the go platform.
 
afransen said:
Yes, with a clean slate like this, the goal should be a streetcar loop next to or underneath the go platform.
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MX has shown essentially no desire to achieve the quality of interchange between local transit/GO that I think a lot of people took for granted based off the past glory of TTC design. Stockyards/Old Weston GO will have an even worse interchange with the 512 than proposed for Parklawn GO. At east end Ontario Line stations, OL riders will still be expected to cross a live lane of traffic to board intersecting 501/503/506 streetcars.
 
They could easily have brought the 501 west along Lake Shore, turn right on the new Avenue A, turn south on Park Lawn , and left again at Lake Shore. The 508 car could follow the same loop , left on Avenue A , left on Park Lawn and right at Lake Shore..
It does seem like an opportunity lost. But the road traffic will be complicated enough, and I’m not sure how popular Park Lawn needs to be as a transfer point, given Long Branch to the west and Exhibition to the east.

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The 501 will be running into the development along Street B and will have platforms immediately adjacent to Station Square and the southern entrance to the GO station. Little bit hard to make out but you can see the platforms and track crossovers in the site plan for phase 1. This on street loop will serve as the new terminus of the 508 and 501, replacing the Humber Loop on the other side of the Gardiner.
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The big miss here is a quality transfer, as the planned setup will force an 80m walking transfer outside and waiting on the typically weather exposed Streetcar platform
 
jmi22 said:
The 501 will be running into the development along Street B and will have platforms immediately adjacent to Station Square and the southern entrance to the GO station. Little bit hard to make out but you can see the platforms and track crossovers in the site plan for phase 1. This on street loop will serve as the new terminus of the 508 and 501, replacing the Humber Loop on the other side of the Gardiner.
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The big miss here is a quality transfer, as the planned setup will force an 80m walking transfer outside and waiting on the typically weather exposed Streetcar platform
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It's not ideal, but it's not bad. Will the Humber loop actually go? That's the connection to the Queensway bus.
 
Alex L said:
It's not ideal, but it's not bad. Will the Humber loop actually go? That's the connection to the Queensway bus.
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So far as I know there are no plans to demolish Humber Loop, and it likely will remain a stop on the 501 to facilitate the transfer to the 80 bus. I would not hold my breath on the transition to the 501/508 transfer starting at the Christie Site though, as the southernmost stretch of street B is listed as apart of Phase 4, projected to finish in over a decade.
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Long term, the Humber Loop site could be a very promising city led housing opportunity, especially with a rejigging of the Queensway eastbound overpass of the streetcar right of way. A shifting of the overpass north to hug the streetcar right of way would open up a very large piece of land in addition to the existing Humber Loop lands. In combination with the plaza to the wests inevitable redevelopment this could really urbanize a currently dire stretch of the Queensway. Humber Bay North maybe?
 

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