mcbg1 said:
Getting to the park means going through big empty lands under construction for 10-25 years. That is a fact. And the pedestrian bridge from East Bayfront is definitely not happening next year despite what Waterfront Toronto said. That is also a fact. And the people running Waterfront Toronto are paid big bucks while things progress at a snail pace. Fact. And we're not talking only about condos. All of promontory park south which would connect to East Bayfront with the pedestrian bridge is not happening anytime soon. Parliament slip is also not going to be done anytime soon.
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These posts show little understanding of the incredible changes Waterfront Toronto has brought to the waterfront over the last 20 years: from the wavedecks, to the Queens Quay West reconstruction, to Sugar Beach, to the waterfront promenade, to Sherbourne and Corktown Commons and now the West Portlands. All of it free for every Torontonian to use. They’ve done enormous amounts of invisible infrastructure work like soil remediation and flood mitigation while creating green spaces to make former industrial lands appealing enough to live in so that condos can be built on them. And your main complaint is that you can’t be bothered to take a ten minute bus ride to get there and hence think it’s too far way? Or that a pedestrian bridge won’t be built fast enough for your liking? Dude, you have some odd priorities…
 
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Parkdalian said:
These posts show little understanding of the incredible changes Waterfront Toronto has brought to the waterfront over the last 20 years: from the wavedecks, to the Queens Quay West reconstruction, to Sugar Beach, to the waterfront promenade, to Sherbourne and Corktown Commons and now the West Portlands. All of it free for every Torontonian to use. They’ve done enormous amounts of invisible infrastructure work like soil remediation and flood mitigation while creating green spaces to make former industrial lands appealing enough to live in so that condos can be built on them. And your main complaint is that you can’t be bothered to take a ten minute bus ride to get there and hence think it’s too far way? Or that a pedestrian bridge won’t be built fast enough for your liking? Dude, you have some odd priorities…
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thank you for eloquently wrecking this person and pointing out their ignorance and entitlement
 
GameOnBrad said:
I genuinely believe that a.) it will be funded, and b.) they are going ahead with making all the trails around and through this area. They are prepping for this part already. I took a picture of it on the weekend...

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Yes, that is the plan. The area around the crane and lookout etc is supposed to open in spring 2026 (I assume after the new plants are given a bit of time to get rooted. The play area is further north - more where the new (and funded) foot and cycling bridge will be.
 
No the play area is adjacent to and surrounding the crane, as seen in the renderings. The park opening in 2026 will be the south area MINUS the Play Park. See the waterfront Toronto map on the previous page
 
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In defense of that one person, I think that it can be supremely frustrating in this city the pace at which we develop. I’ve been to the park several times and love it, but I zoom by the empty part on my bike.

I remember first visiting Sherbourne common back in 2012 when there was little else other than Corus Quay. I was shocked that they built all that during the Rob Ford era, so I’ve been a long fan of WT. But I trudged along that strip of Queens Quay for years as they slowly built up, and think the completed boardwalk is lovely… buuut I do wonder if they coulda sped it up a bit.

Like in all this time, how is it that we’ve only just now started to see concrete plans on development around the park? How many years are we gonna wait for anything on the silo? It’s right beside the pedestrian bridge after all. Is there any chance they put the bridge in, and we can’t access because everything around it is being built?

While WT isn’t Metrolinx or the North Market, I can understand why some folks generally feel burnt about plans and hopes even as we relish in the park.

Nobody’s getting younger around here, but like the saplings in Biidaasige- that shade ain’t for me.
 
It's not just a matter of building 10,000 homes. Things have to be done in phases, houses have to be sold before being built, trades have to be queued up. While it would be nice if it happened all at once for your pleasure, that's an logistically impossible task.

Also, this won't be popular, but judging by the complete collapse of the condo market, don't expect much momentum on the island wrt housing, except for the publicly funded or subsidized projects.
 
kev1n1m said:
It's not just a matter of building 10,000 homes. Things have to be done in phases, houses have to be sold before being built, trades have to be queued up. While it would be nice if it happened all at once for your pleasure, that's an logistically impossible task.

Also, this won't be popular, but judging by the complete collapse of the condo market, don't expect much momentum on the island wrt housing, except for the publicly funded or subsidized projects.
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That’s something I’m way too curious about. Because at some point I started to feel like “affordable housing” was just another trendy buzzword being used to fuel politics and developer bank accounts. Say you’re solving the housing crisis and nobody can criticize you, blank check.

Tell me you’re doing affordable rental 3 bdrm and by all means, but it seems as though we even missed the mark on affordable rental. The ones in Canary struggle with capacity, and the cherry house one has been slow walking things forever. Meanwhile hybrid and remote work is making work out of the city a thing, despite however many Patagonia vests take the GO Train in the morning.

So all these devs can’t build office space because who needs it anymore. Retail is dying and we have a condo glut because they built (small) for profit - and it’s not as cheap to borrow money as before. And that’s before tariffs.

So maybe someone smarter can tell me if I’m wrong here but it feels like a LOT is on hold. Basin Media Hub feels like a windmill, I think the Bell Media joint at 299 is no longer in play. T3 Bayside is light years away from doing that second building. Yeah we got stuff in the air and more proposals, but I can see a stall ahead even before we officially go into global recession.

Also, for this area- are big money devs also waiting until the subway is closer along?

Anyhow, I’m glad that the Porsche dealership is coming along so quick. Truly needed.

Making me wish they put a Home Depot on the Silo site 30yrs ago.
 
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