Some people value their time more than others. I would rather drive to a great many destinations instead of transit due to the time it takes. Just last week I had the choice to taking an hour via transit or 23 min via car to get to wonderland. I chose the car.
I value not incentivizing more people to drive into downtown Toronto. It’s not just Ontario Place. I was on Queens Quay yesterday and thought the amount of congestion and bad drivers really spoils the atmosphere.
 
Some people value their time more than others. I would rather drive to a great many destinations instead of transit due to the time it takes. Just last week I had the choice of taking an hour via transit or 23 min via car to get to Wonderland. I chose the car.
If the car is not stolen, broken into, or vandalized. That's why I prefer taking public transit.
 
Someone coming from Barrie on transit takes well over 2 hours on GO to get to Exhibition GO, plus an extra 5-10 minute walk.

Or they can drive in a little over an hour in typical conditions.

Barrie would be an unusual case. A majority of OSC visitors have always been from the GTHA. And 25% recently have been school groups.

The location at 770 Don Mills was chosen explicitly for good regional highway access.

The new parking garage has 3500 spaces. That is three times the number that existed at the Don Mills OSC. That’s because the province has concentrated three uses, all of which have significant parking demand, and have chosen to cater to that parking demand, and to build a garage next to the lake.

These things are fundamentally incompatible. You can’t have a five-storey parking garage and a good waterfront park in the same place.

The government has released drawings of the science centre that pretend the parking garage doesn’t exist. And they’ve released zero drawings of the parking garage recently. That’s because it’s going to be terrible and they don’t want people to get their heads around that.

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Convenience will always become an inconvenient when everyone else uses the same mode of personal transportation to get to the same destination in the opening hours. This is what is commonly know as congestion....and it's the farthest thing from convenient. (And if you happen beat the traffic and get there under a half in the anecdote...you're just lucky.)

...it's also one of the big reasons why they shouldn't build a parking lot here.
 
I value not incentivizing more people to drive into downtown Toronto. It’s not just Ontario Place. I was on Queens Quay yesterday and thought the amount of congestion and bad drivers really spoils the atmosphere.
Cool, your individual preference doesn't make others less valid.
A majority of OSC visitors have always been from the GTHA.
What about Live Nation? What about the water park at Ontario Place that Therme is replacing?
 
I value not incentivizing more people to drive into downtown Toronto. It’s not just Ontario Place. I was on Queens Quay yesterday and thought the amount of congestion and bad drivers really spoils the atmosphere.
Queens Quay West would be a great street to give the King treatment to. There is really no reason for anyone to be driving down that way.

Also, tangentially related to congestion and bad driving, when are cops going to wake up and start doing something about the stupid jackasses in every town (not just in Canada) that go into these busy places where people are trying to enjoy themselves and rev their engines really loud, or have that stupid backfiring thing every time they accelerate that sounds like gun fire? The other evening I was in Oakville and during a 15 minute walk along Lakeshore there were at least 20 of these idiots. If you stationed a cop in every settlement with a population over 100 to ticket these outstanding citizens, you'd wipe out the national debt in the course of a single afternoon. Beyond sick of these people harassing the public due to their own insecurities, and the spineless "authority" figures that don't do anything about them.
 
What about Live Nation? What about the water park at Ontario Place that Therme is replacing?

There were 1200 parking spots at Ontario Place (which were mostly empty 90% of the time). Now there will be 3500. And a police station.

This is not the status quo. This is dramatic change to the site, with multiple very large opaque buildings and a parking garage that is, in itself, huge.
 
There were 1200 parking spots at Ontario Place (which were mostly empty 90% of the time). Now there will be 3500. And a police station.

This is not the status quo. This is dramatic change to the site, with multiple very large opaque buildings and a parking garage that is, in itself, huge.
It’s almost like there is going to be a science centre, mega spa, and expanded concert venue built there or something.. I think it’s reasonable to expect parking demand to shift.
 
Wait, with the expanded island airport, can't everyone just fly in, why the need for parking ? :p
 

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