[smallspy]

The Redway Road extension has been around since the 1980's and is what's left of an original plan to extend Leslie south. It's not going to happen due to opposition in Rosedale.

I do think it SHOULD happen though as it will remove a lot of through-traffic off local streets in Leaside and would not cost much. Loblaws built half of it for the city in the 90's when they build their grocery store..

For the record.....

Most of the opposition was not from Rosedale. It was from Leasiders.

I would love to hear the story of how exactly Loblaws got permission to build that store. It would surely be unthinkable now.

The site had been a manufacturing/retail site since the 1920s, IIRC. They just moved in when the previous tenant moved out.

Dan

 

[Northern Light]

Argh, people love to throw out acronyms that make my brain go blank.
OMSF = Ontario Municipal Storage Facility, which the Metrolinx website says should properly be used to refer to a different site in Mississauga.
Google also returns: OMFS = Oral and MaxilloFacial Surgery, a department in U of T's dentistry programme.
You're welcome.

Anyway, I presumed the OMSF site is where the line was to go, I'm surprised it's actually going in front of the Salvation Army office building. I would have thought, and the very least, the line might go under it. If the line were to go behind that building, it would need to squeeze between it and the big hydro electric station, which I'm sure would be off limits to a transit project, even for tunnelling under it.
But that's why I'm here, to learn stuff.

No, that is not what it stands for.

Its Operations, Maintenance and Storage Facility.

 

[Northern Light]

Ha! I KNEW this would be the first response.

Cars aren't going to drive all through magical little Crothers Woods.

Yes, they would, you seem unaware of the alignment.

The road is already there. It parallels the train tracks. Which are already there. It would just be paving it.

Also not correct. The entire roadway is not there, not even close.

It wouldn't touch Crothers Woods.

It very much would.

****

Deep breath. I squashed this project completely the last time it came up, and I would make every effort to do it again. * to be clear, I had lots of help.

 

[Northern Light]

For the record.....

Most of the opposition was not from Rosedale. It was from Leasiders.


The site had been a manufacturing/retail site since the 1920s, IIRC. They just moved in when the previous tenant moved out.

Dan

It was Crothers Equipment that first set up shop there. They were a dealership for Caterpillar. They closed in 1979.

This is what it looked like:

Source: https://hikingthegta.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/aerial-crothers.jpg

 

[A 6264]

You're thinking of the wrong intersection. The Salvation Army building is at the corner of Millwood and Overlea Blvd and it's not going anywhere.

Got it, thanks. I pictured the line running well north of Overlea, but it appears it will be right next to it for some distance, in front of many other buildings on the north side.
I'm sure this is a question answered before, but I wonder why they didn't run the elevated line in place of the wide grassy divider that ran down the middle of Overlea until it was removed recently.
I suppose there could be a debate as to whether that would be esthetically beautiful, or 'orrible.

 

[GameOnBrad]

Took a pic of the rail bridge work as I crossed the Eastern Avenue bridge over the Don River on Saturday...

 

[officedweller]

You're thinking of the wrong intersection. The Salvation Army building is at the corner of Millwood and Overlea Blvd and it's not going anywhere. View attachment 691464

Given the render above those curves aren't at all extreme.

Plus the trains will be slower moving as they enter and exit the station.

 

[officedweller]

I'm sure this is a question answered before, but I wonder why they didn't run the elevated line in place of the wide grassy divider that ran down the middle of Overlea until it was removed recently.
I suppose there could be a debate as to whether that would be esthetically beautiful, or 'orrible.

An elevated station in a road median requires an extra mezzanine level for passengers to cross the street. That adds cost for the taller station and guideway structure (plus extra elevators and escalators which increase maintenance costs) and locals will complain about the extra height overshadowing the street. Median alignments work best where there is no station. In theory, at Thorncliffe Park, they could have sited the station N-S behind the Costco with entrance at the south end which would have allowed a median alignment.
Side of road stations typically only have one escalator or elevator to reach the platform..

ie Green Timbers Station on the Surrey SkyTrain extension in median with mezzanine which minimizes park encroachment either side of the street.

 

[Northern Light]

Self-identifying NIMBY?

That's obnoxious, and unreasonable thing to say.

I have a track record here for 18 years. Please don't say things for which there is no evidence, which are untrue and inflammatory.

For the record, I don't live anywhere near Leaside or Crothers Woods.

What I am, is a protector of nature.

 

[Corktownie]

So am I wrong, or do elevated train tracks usually make the streetscape feel pretty severe underneath? A little bit like walking under the Gardiner it's pretty dark and gloomy and street level.

I feel like same will happen here. Strip mall and huge parking lot on one side, elevated tracks on the other, it's going to feel pretty grim. No?

It won’t be anywhere near as wide or as oppressive as the Gardiner. To get a sense of what it will be like, have a look at the Skytrain along No. 3 Road in Richmond.

 

[NoahB]

That's pretty obnoxious, unreasonable and inflammatory to say that anyone who believes in progress is a reckless destroyer.

A little street tucked right up against the train tracks (like Summerhll Avenue is east of Mt. Pleasant) would take traffic pressure off Leaside and make for a much shorter route over to Overlea and Laird. It would do nothing to Crothers Woods.

Yet you pride yourself in being anti-progress? You remind me of my conservative father who hates any new ideas. I'm happy to be more liberal minded!

You know as well as I do that nature must be conquered.

At any rate, you and I have always disagreed in my 14 years on here.

So I say to you, good day sir.

Sir, this is Wendy's Ontario Line thread.

 

[Northern Light]

That's pretty obnoxious, unreasonable and inflammatory to say that anyone who believes in progress is a reckless destroyer.

That isn't what I said, which is what makes your posts inflammatory. You're simply inaccurate and say things that literally aren't true.

It would do nothing to Crothers Woods.

I've already told you this is incorrect. I know the alignment.

Which, is owned by Metrolinx who aren't selling.

The slope on which you would place the road was already evaluated and deemed insufficiently stable for the purpose of Redway w/o shoring and retaining walls.

Don't believe me, LOL....here, Councillor Burnside is/was a proponent of Redway:

Redway Road extension in Leaside unlikely

With traffic issues being a major community issue, the Redway Road Extension was brought back to the discussion table three years ago.

postcity.com

From the above:

Yet you pride yourself in being anti-progress? You remind me of my conservative father who hates any new ideas. I'm happy to be more liberal minded!

At any rate, you and I have always disagreed in my 14 years on here.

So I say to you, good day sir.

That actually isn't true, we have agreed on somethings, and I've defended your desire to own a car (as I do myself) against others who are more militantly anti-car.

But you do make carried away arguments and confuse your self-interest with progress, from time to time, when they are not one and the same.

 

[Dan416]

An elevated station in a road median requires an extra mezzanine level for passengers to cross the street. That adds cost for the taller station and guideway structure (plus extra elevators and escalators which increase maintenance costs) and locals will complain about the extra height overshadowing the street. Median alignments work best where there is no station. In theory, at Thorncliffe Park, they could have sited the station N-S behind the Costco with entrance at the south end which would have allowed a median alignment.
Side of road stations typically only have one escalator or elevator to reach the platform..

ie Green Timbers Station on the Surrey SkyTrain extension in median with mezzanine which minimizes park encroachment either side of the street.

Wait so Vancouver is using the "T" as well now? I don't seem to recall them doing that, but it was like 2 years ago that I visited and maybe I just don't remember.

 

[nfitz]

Wait so Vancouver is using the "T" as well now? I don't seem to recall them doing that, but it was like 2 years ago that I visited and maybe I just don't remember.

Science World Station - 2012

 

[reinventingthewheel]

Wait so Vancouver is using the "T" as well now? I don't seem to recall them doing that, but it was like 2 years ago that I visited and maybe I just don't remember.

About 5 years by my account, may have started rollout even sooner – I mainly ride the Canada Line.