hawc said:
Captured where both bridges will go, but can anyone trace the elevated portions between the two bridges on my picture? I can't visualize it.

Is this it?
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Obviously it can't make right angle turns like that, so here's a the full shot if someone else wants to try and trace it.

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Something like this:

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The Redway Road extension has been around since the 1980's and is what's left of an original plan to extend Leslie south. It's not going to happen due to opposition in Rosedale.

I do think it SHOULD happen though as it will remove a lot of through-traffic off local streets in Leaside and would not cost much. Loblaws built half of it for the city in the 90's when they build their grocery store..
 
hawc said:
Ah interesting. So the big dirt patch in the circled area doesn't have anything to do with it?

Also is the roadwork going on Overlea right now part of it? The road is all torn up.

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That whole area to the left of the red line route is the OMSF. all the way to the rail line
 
EYorker said:
See Schedule 2 from the Official Plan: The Designation of Planned but Unbuilt Roads -

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I wish there was a map of those.The lack of road names makes it difficult to follow.

hawc said:
Ah interesting. So the big dirt patch in the circled area doesn't have anything to do with it?
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That's for storage tracks for the Maintenance and Storage Facility, etc.

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From https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projec...ere-building/thorncliffe-park-station-and-msf

generalcanada said:
That whole area to the left of the red line route is the OMSF. all the way to the rail line
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Much of it. Though the commercial area behind the station, and then southwest towards Millwood survives. Which will presumably become massively intensified over the years as a TOD.
 
ShonTron said:
The infamous Redway Road extension.

This should be a multiuse path, but not a road. Furthermore, it might be complicated by whatever route ALTO identifies for its Toronto terminus.
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Yes, you would need to level a lot of land and trees to get a road through here, minimum ~8m, while a MUP could take up just 2.1m.

And yes, it’s not easy to see on satellite views with all the tree coverage but the Don Branch cuts right through and may be active again in the distant future.
 
hawc said:
The road's already there. Just pave it and allow access to it. I can't be the first one to think of this.
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Certainly not the first - we've been discussing Redway Road for years - there's even a thread for it at https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/roads-redway-road-extension-leaside-bypass.20766/ which you participated in!

I don't see an unpaved road in the aerial photographs. Are you sure that's not the Metrolinx tracks that are south of the CP mainline at this point? Or the hydro ROW?
 
Argh, people love to throw out acronyms that make my brain go blank.
OMSF = Ontario Municipal Storage Facility, which the Metrolinx website says should properly be used to refer to a different site in Mississauga.
Google also returns: OMFS = Oral and MaxilloFacial Surgery, a department in U of T's dentistry programme.
You're welcome.

Anyway, I presumed the OMSF site is where the line was to go, I'm surprised it's actually going in front of the Salvation Army office building. I would have thought, and the very least, the line might go under it. If the line were to go behind that building, it would need to squeeze between it and the big hydro electric station, which I'm sure would be off limits to a transit project, even for tunnelling under it.
But that's why I'm here, to learn stuff.
 
Follow-up to my post above, I looked at the link to Thorncliffe Park Station a few posts back, and seeing the first artist rendering on that page, it looks like the Salvation Army building isn't there anymore, and the station replaces it. Of course, artist renderings aren't always accurate, and can lead to wild and unjustified speculation. I'll wait and see, before presuming anything.
 
Why would one preserve a 1-story store in a routine strip mall? Even the ones not removed, I'd assumed would be quickly redeveloped.

Bojaxs said:
Shame the province couldn't get the Throncliffe Park station closer to the CPKC tracks. If we were ever to successfully negotiate with CPKC to get the Midtown line running, it would allow for easy transitioning.
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The station is already further north than the centre of the area - nearly a 1-km walk to some buildings. Moving it another 300 metres north, might lose more passengers than it gains.

If a transfer with the midtown line is important, then I'd put the station near Green Belt Drive on Don Mills Road.
 
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innsertnamehere said:
The Redway Road extension has been around since the 1980's and is what's left of an original plan to extend Leslie south. It's not going to happen due to opposition in Rosedale.

I do think it SHOULD happen though as it will remove a lot of through-traffic off local streets in Leaside and would not cost much. Loblaws built half of it for the city in the 90's when they build their grocery store..
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Perhaps these Redway posts (including this one) could be migrated to the original thread?

I would love to hear the story of how exactly Loblaws got permission to build that store. It would surely be unthinkable now.

I now live in the area (which I didn't when the original thread was humming along) and I can say that because of the limited street grid either side of Bayview, Southvale-Moore regularly slows to below walking pace between Hanna and Bessborough, because Leacrest isn't a full length street to the south and Sutherland has no light (yet) at Bayview to the north. That's not going to get better with the increasing conversion of Laird from industrial/commercial to residential.

Notwithstanding Northern Light's rather trenchant comments about the trilliums (in the original thread), I think a limited access road hugging the CP alignment between Bayview Extn & Nesbitt and Millwood & Redway is justifiable, at least for police/fire/EMS. The reason I would hold back from going further is that the Redway/Millwood/CP intersection is appalling. The other assumption is that the Metrolinx Don Branch will never be used by Alto or anyone else - contrary to some posts above, the Don Branch seems like nuclear fusion - 10 years away from a breakthrough no matter what year it is.
 
A 6264 said:
Follow-up to my post above, I looked at the link to Thorncliffe Park Station a few posts back, and seeing the first artist rendering on that page, it looks like the Salvation Army building isn't there anymore, and the station replaces it. Of course, artist renderings aren't always accurate, and can lead to wild and unjustified speculation. I'll wait and see, before presuming anything.
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You're thinking of the wrong intersection. The Salvation Army building is at the corner of Millwood and Overlea Blvd and it's not going anywhere.
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416InTrouble said:
That bend by the costo and then Don mills again is pretty extreme for a train. It’s gonna be super slow moving and hopefully doesn’t derail like the streetcars do at Chruch and King 😝
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Given the render above those curves aren't at all extreme.
 
hawc said:
Ha! I KNEW this would be the first response.

Cars aren't going to drive all through magical little Crothers Woods.

The road is already there. It parallels the train tracks. Which are already there. It would just be paving it.

Deep breath.

It wouldn't touch Crothers Woods.
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So you don't believe in induced demand then.....

Dan
 
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