BTW. I've noticed a second wall going up here and there. You can see it on the north side of the Eastern Transit Hub but also in the park on the south side of the Dundas Street Bridge.

Is this part of the foundation for the Ontario Line tracks that will run alongside the Go Line?

Eastern Transit Hub:

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Secondary wall just south of Dundas Street Go Transit Bridge. You can see it on the left side of the first photo. Same wall.

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The stations for the Ontario Line at Dundas and Queen are being built as much longer bridges than the bridges already in place for the railway corridor. This is to allow for a concourse, fare gates, vertical accesses, etc. at the ground level and underneath the trains.

Because of that, that part of the embankment needs to be cut back further from the roads when compared to the embankment for the railway corridor.

Dan
 
Borrowing @kotsy 's image, here's a rough guess of where the tracks will actually end up. (GO yellow, Line 3 purple, GO platforms in red)(apologies for the shaky mouse action)

As you can see, there is a lot of work still to be done, but the footprint of the thing is starting to show up.

This makes me more certain that the current north "hot" track will have to shift eventually to allow construction of the southmost GO platform. That sure suggests that the two missing tracks and their platform will be built first.

- Paul

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Have you been to Europe? Lots of tagging in e.g. Athens
All 20 countries in Europe I have been too as well 35 cities, tagging is a lot worse there than here. Some of those countries are worse than others as you can see it from the train while going from city to city along the route.
 
Borrowing @kotsy 's image, here's a rough guess of where the tracks will actually end up. (GO yellow, Line 3 purple, GO platforms in red)(apologies for the shaky mouse action)

As you can see, there is a lot of work still to be done, but the footprint of the thing is starting to show up.

This makes me more certain that the current north "hot" track will have to shift eventually to allow construction of the southmost GO platform. That sure suggests that the two missing tracks and their platform will be built first.

- Paul

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That's a pretty wide corridor!
 
I agree, but I seems that for east Harbour the canopy can be added after the fact as the structural supports are placed outside the main station structure.View attachment 678569
First of all...wow. I have never seen this picture..stunning and such a shame that everything seems to be descoped.


Also, lol.

Do you really expect us to ever build something like this after the fact ?
 
I agree, but I seems that for east Harbour the canopy can be added after the fact as the structural supports are placed outside the main station structure.View attachment 678569

It's pretty clear from the rendering that the exterior support is insufficient for the canopy - it hosts columns in the interior of the station.

AoD
 
Unfortunately, it's faaaaaaar more complicated. When talking about the public realm, Toronto has like 1400+ parks, whereas Vancouver has around 300. There are a lot of factors involved but, I think, one of the most crucial problems is the lack of widespread (affordable) artistic clubs, classes, and workshops all around the city, as well as those that try to encourage people to join them.

I was one of those kids back in the day but I did not go as far as to tag stuff. I was certainly headed in that direction though.

Also, some people just want to watch the world burn.

Its also worth noting that Toronto is 5x larger in terms of area than Vancouver is, and its especially worth noting that compared to Toronto - Metro Vancouver is an extremely polycentric region with Vancouver itself really only being a small part of it. This isn't a one-to-one comparison.
Sorry if I'm being harsh but these responses are all too typical - there's always an excuse. I don't think the difference between the public realm in Toronto and Vancouver is as much as some say, but I do think that we need to stop making excuses. The size of the city or the number of parks shouldn't make a difference to whether or not our major streets look half decent.
 
Sorry if I'm being harsh but these responses are all too typical - there's always an excuse. I don't think the difference between the public realm in Toronto and Vancouver is as much as some say, but I do think that we need to stop making excuses. The size of the city or the number of parks shouldn't make a difference to whether or not our major streets look half decent.
... what exactly am I excusing? I'm not entirely sure what it is you think I'm arguing. I'm simply making a factual observation - comparing the quantity of parks in 2 completely arbitrary and non-comparable city limits is a pointless metric that doesn't give us any meaningful information. Toronto's city limits are quite broad, and include a vast amount of suburbia where its extremely easy to build small parks/playgrounds, as well swaths of natural ravines and rivers that inflate the amount of greenspace. Most importantly, this metric tells us nothing about how much greenspace there is in urban areas such as downtown Toronto. Meanwhile Vancouver has far more restrictive city limits, which prominiently excludes parkland that is otherwise quite close to the city - such as those found in the University Endowment Lands, and the various mountains and greenspace north of North Vancouver.

That being said if I was going to try and analyze how much green space both cities have close to their downtowns, Vancouver wins no questions asked. Stanley Park is massive and is right next to downtown - 10m away from Waterfront by bike. Besides Centre Island, the only thing Toronto has that is even remotely comparable would be the Don Valley which is quite a bit further away. Like yes, I agree that Toronto does have a green space problem, the only question would be how easy would it be to solve.
 

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